I will personally take a Trimble S3 over an S6 any day. The Tracklight is indispensable, whether you're trying to get on line, or just find where the gun is when you are far away in thick woods. The built in selfie camera on the S6 doesn't do much for me, and that dumb screen on the instrument isn't even worth mentioning.
Search functions on both the Leica and the Trimble are very good. The company I'm with now has the Focus 30. The search is about as fast as it was with my old 5603. The motors turn the TS15 and the S8 a lot faster, so the searches are way better.
The Focus collects data well enough, but if I could possibly afford the Leica (or the Trimble) I'd go for it. I really think that it will pay off in reliability in the medium run. Our Focuses are spending a lot of time in the shop. It's on warranty now but I give them 3-5 years at the outside before they are junk.
Norman Oklahoma, post: 348280, member: 9981 wrote: Search functions on both the Leica and the Trimble are very good. The company I'm with now has the Focus 30. The search is about as fast as it was with my old 5603. The motors turn the TS15 and the S8 a lot faster, so the searches are way better.
The Focus collects data well enough, but if I could possibly afford the Leica (or the Trimble) I'd go for it. I really think that it will pay off in reliability in the medium run. Our Focuses are spending a lot of time in the shop. It's on warranty now but I give them 3-5 years at the outside before they are junk.
Thanks! Very interesting. I got the focus 35 yesterday (same as 30 basically) bc I didn't want to be forced to switch to Carlson collectors and end me going to trimble in the future if wanted.
I'm planning to get a 2nd machine this summer so if I try carlson with my 35 and like it, then I can go leica for the 2nd robot. Or I can go with the trimble which would run access but I would think it would be easier to hop between 2 collectors if they were using access/survey pro vs if they were carlson/surveypro
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My S6 has a tracklight. Vision was only an option the last few years.
I agree that the tracklight can be better under certain circumstances. (in the bushes and at night). You can't have both. I would probably choose the camera on balance.
The DR spec on tbe EDM and the tracking speed is also better than the S3.
The S3 still has the plummet in the tribrach. That's fine if your traverse kits are compatible.
The Trimble Robots are Geodimeters. Designed by Swedes and produced in Sweden.
Swiss designed models are made in Malaysia.
I'm sorry but you're just plain wrong. Trimble is made in Sweden from parts all over the world. For example, Trimble uses Carl Zeiss lenses. Carl Zeiss is in Germany. I can go on....
Leica's signature products are made in Switzerland, again with parts from all over the world. They have some low-end products manufactured in Indonesia.
It is true that Trimble bought Geodimeter and rebranded their products. But that was 15? years ago. Not sure it's fair to continue to make the statement that Trimbles are Geodimeters.
I have been watching Robot rumors for a very long time. Of all the comments I have heard, I'd have to say go with the GEODIMETER one. The ACTIVE target, is simply indispensable.
I don't own or use a robot. But, that is simply a condensed opinion, based on alot of reading.
Trimble Bought up the Geodimeter company. I hear more good about that active tracking than all the other advantages of other designs.
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There are several significant differences between an S3 and an S6, and the S6 was available with or without the camera - if you purchased it without the camera, it had the tracklights. On the whole, the S6 is a far superior instrument to the S3.
Just from memory:
- I believe that the speed of the motors was slightly faster on the S6;
- The "dumb screen" on the S6 allows you to calibrate it and - far more importantly - change the radio settings without a computer or data collector;
- The radio range of the S3 was much less, unless your dealer's service guys were aware of that and knew how to change it;
- The S6 has the optical plummet in the alidade, which I for one certainly prefer;
- The S6 came standard with active tracking capability;
- Perhaps most importantly, the S6 has a technology Trimble called Sure Point. You can zero an S6 on a target and literally turn the leveling screws - as long as you're in compensation range (which I believe is 6'), the angle will still be zeroed and the instrument will still be pointed at the target. This is due to the fact that the motors work in tandem with the tilt sensors, and to my knowledge there is no instrument made by anyone else that will do this.
The nice thing about an S6 is that it can operate in either a passive or an active mode. The active prism increases the range and decreases the search time, and is worth it's weight in gold when trying to maintain lock in the woods. Plus the added benefit that when the active target is specified the S6 WILL NOT lock onto anything else, including another active prism that is turned off or set to a different ID number.
Lee D, post: 348423, member: 7971 wrote: Just from memory:
- I believe that the speed of the motors was slightly faster on the S6;
- The "dumb screen" on the S6 allows you to calibrate it and - far more importantly - change the radio settings without a computer or data collector;
- The radio range of the S3 was much less, unless your dealer's service guys were aware of that and knew how to change it;
- The S6 has the optical plummet in the alidade, which I for one certainly prefer;
- The S6 came standard with active tracking capability;
- Perhaps most importantly, the S6 has a technology Trimble called Sure Point. You can zero an S6 on a target and literally turn the leveling screws - as long as you're in compensation range (which I believe is 6'), the angle will still be zeroed and the instrument will still be pointed at the target. This is due to the fact that the motors work in tandem with the tilt sensors, and to my knowledge there is no instrument made by anyone else that will do this.
Those are all amazing features and I simultaneously commend your S6 sales pitch and apologize for voicing MY opinion. I thought we were encouraged to do that on this online forum. None of those features have any use to me whatsoever. If I were buying a robot I would prefer to save my money AND use one I find to be more user friendly. Not facts- just a personal opinion.
Also in active mode it doesn't track the reflective strips on your safety vest
jim.cox, post: 348546, member: 93 wrote: Also in active mode it doesn't track the reflective strips on your safety vest
What's a safety vest? [emoji23]
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A scrap of coloured cloth intended to engender the feeling of invicibity and all-round bullet-proofing in its wearer 🙂
jim.cox, post: 348558, member: 93 wrote: A scrap of coloured cloth intended to engender the feeling of invicibity and all-round bullet-proofing in its wearer 🙂
I did a quick layout for a bike rack for the MTA in NY. I showed up and they wanted a vest, hardhat gloves etc on me. Then all had comments bc I didn't have proper footwear on and I was wearing shorts....
Then they shoved a hard helmet on me. They hadn't even started anything yet! The only difference between the site that day and when the public is walking there is they had a little fence around the area.
So I put the hard helmet on, smiled, and said "good, now if the sky starts to fall, I'll be ready."
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Yes, the Trimble S3/S6/S8 were made in Sweden, and so are the new S5/S7/S9. For all intents and purposes, it's still Geotronics over there.
Hi Rich
Do you have still this broken focus 30 ?
Hello,
Are you interested in selling the Trimble 5603??ÿ?ÿ
Rich hasn't been posting very often lately, so he might not see your question. Perhaps you should send him a personal message via the board.
