Klutzy stuff in software

Klutzy stuff in standards

Ever work with the NCS layers? We are trying to work towards those for sub work for a BIG engineering firm. Their CAD guys said NCS would be great, but they are missing some layers and have too many others for my liking. Plus the #-####-####-####-#### is annoying. Plus the organization is not smart. Nothing is in order, things don't make sense.

Klutzy stuff in standards

> Ever work with the NCS layers? We are trying to work towards those for sub work for a BIG engineering firm. Their CAD guys said NCS would be great, but they are missing some layers and have too many others for my liking. Plus the #-####-####-####-#### is annoying. Plus the organization is not smart. Nothing is in order, things don't make sense.

I only understood the words you wrote. But none of the ideas, or concepts.
I don't know what NCS layers are, and I don't know what the #### stuff is.

At least, I don't think I do.

Whatchewtalkinboutwillis?

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Klutzy stuff in standards

> Ever work with the NCS layers?

They may be annoying, but at least they're "standard"

Just checked...I have 96 different C3D templates and 10 different MicroStation workspaces available on my network.

My guys are out running control on a new project this week that has to be delivered in Smithsonian Institution CAD standards. Really, a freaking museum has their own CAD standards. Oh, they work in metric too.

Once you have made your computations and are satisfied with them you can download your points file and run it thru a text editor and change them to something else (INTERSECTION to X) using the find and replace function to change them.

I do that to change descriptions when my helper has used some oddball note.

😉

Thanks. It's just annoying.

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Klutzy stuff in standards

National Cad Standards

I did not see where surveyors helped create the standard and we do not get a discount for the package.

They may be standard, but they are missing a few items I would deem KEY.

Klutzy stuff in standards

There is at least one licensed surveyor on the Project Committee that I know of.

There also are vacancies on the Survey/Civil Task Team. The application to volunteer can be found here 😉

Klutzy stuff in standards

Thanks. Ye olde Cad cadres, are makin me life rumble.... CAD standards would have a problem with what I normally place in me field books. Engineers. Yup. Some injuneers need to be whipped!

Frankly, that is what the field book is for, diagrams and notes to insure correct interpretation of the work flow in the data collector.

Stuff in standards

:good:

[sarcasm]My standard is not the best but it is better than the NCS standard.[/sarcasm]

Stuff in standards

Stick it to the man.

Power to the people.

Klutzy stuff in standards

> National Cad Standards

The NCS wants money, this link is to a very similar , and free, version of the same from the US Corps of Engineers.

The standard allows for the user creating new layers, you just have to follow the format.

Radius Point staking

> In Carlson, when creating points, in a subdivision, it labels all the Radius Points RADPT.
> That clutters up my worksheet.

Aloha, Nate:
This is kind of hijacking your post...sorry.

I am just curious about Radius point staking and have couple questions.
1. A curve could have a radius of 400 ft. and that point could fall somewhere on the site that is not easily accessible. What is the common practice when this happens?

2. What would be elevation assigned to the Radius Point? Same as PC or PT's know elevation or left zero?

Thanks

Radius Point staking

> 1. A curve could have a radius of 400 ft. and that point could fall somewhere on the site that is not easily accessible. What is the common practice when this happens?

Offset points (from the curve, not the radius)

> 2. What would be elevation assigned to the Radius Point? Same as PC or PT's know elevation or left zero?

Dependent upon your preference and the contractors needs.

Radius Point staking

Thanks Kevin! Aloha

Radius Point staking

It all depends on what you are trying to accomplish. Most of mine are roads, that intersect property lines. The elev does not matter. But, when doing const staking, it really matters. But, the RP elev... I don't think it matters much. Lots of things go on, along the alignment of the road, that does not affect the RP. Way back when I did const staking, we set a theodolite at the PC or PT, sited the PC or PT or the back TAN, and ran the curves in, in segments, using 3 man crew. 2 were taping. Then, we added elev to the hubs, for cut and fill. This was done in 2 steps. Set the hubs correctly for horiz, then add elev with a level. This was common procedure.

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Radius Point staking

Aloha, Nate:
Thanks for more details for these questions. Enjoy your weekend!

Klutzy stuff in standards

"The nice thing about standards is you have so many to choose from."