Gout for 2 years? My brother gets episodes of it, but the pain goes away with medicine and attention to diet. Does this guy hobble around when he isn't faced with a task? How is scouting for monuments easier than doing some of your work?
I was expecting someone to point this out.?ÿ A flare up of gout should go away within a week to two weeks at most (even without medicine).
Your question of "Does this guy hobble around when he isn't faced with a task?" is right on point.?ÿ I would almost bet he is like one of those disability insurance frauds who carries lumber around on weekends remodeling, but is unable to move a paperclip during the workweek.
Is the work you don't like doing or the fact that the Party Chief isn't doing anything? I personally like running the show myself rather than just being a "rear chainman". I worked for a "Chief of Surveying" guy once. I relished doing everything, rather than just pounding hubs. He had to help then because the rod would fall down before I could get back to the gun to take a shot. What difference in pay are we talking? $1.50 or $10.00
Im not afraid to work and I don??t mind doing it. Even 100+ degree days. It??s gotta get done and they pay me for that.
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it??s that we have our own job duties and Im frequently doing 75-100% of the work while he??s getting paid $15 more per hour. For over 2 years. It??s taken me this long to realize and feel the way I do. I figured as an apprentice that??s just how it is.
But talking to others, that??s not how it is at all.?ÿ
I think I??m being taken advantage of and I??m becoming angry about it, because a good leader wouldn??t allow that.
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This guy isn??t a teacher, and far from a mentor or role model.
I??ve hitched my wagon to this company to get through my apprenticeship and log hours, with hopes of becoming chief. I may have to leave before that happens?ÿ
@native1 Time to have a talk with the owner. Good help is hard to find now days. If you're making life easy for the PC he'll probably go to bat for you. The squeaking wheel gets the grease.
I don't know diddly about unions and never will, but, I would hang in there until you have met the requirements to get out of apprentice grade without question.?ÿ Investigate other opportunities in the meantime.
Is there someone under the other chief who you can talk to??ÿ How does that person feel about their situation??ÿ If they like the work split, then I'd not mention your gripes, but lobby management to swap with that person for a while "to expand your experience and mentoring" as someone suggested above.
If that can be done it will probably calibrate your expectations and possibly cause the other crew to expose the situation if you are being taken advantage of, as they find the experience different under him.
It seems like achieving the 3-year goal would be very important, and if an opening develops in your company, you seem to think it would be a good place to stay.
Please discuss with the owner, if you like working for him.?ÿ It is impossible to accommodate an employee if you don't what is bothering them.?ÿ You might mention that you desire to broaden your horizons and see what else you can do to make that happen sooner than later.?ÿ?ÿ
Contact the apprenticeship coordinator, or whatever the appropriated title is, and request a change of assignment.
Maybe petition to journey out based on previous criteria, if appropriate. Based on your description of duties, sounds like you're ready.
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Good ideas guys, thanks for the responses.
I made it a policy to keep my mouth shut during apprenticeship. But there are lines there and I need to go about it the right way.
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Definitely finishing my program, updating my resume and thinking about making a switch if necessary.?ÿ
Asking to switch crews would be alright short term. Could ease things temporarily.
But as much as Ive despised doing two peoples work, the other chief is a soft talker with a heavy accent, and the type of guy that??ll leave at midnight after a full days work, drive 8 hours, work 10 more. Wake up, drive back 8 hours to work the next day. And charge no OT. Not eat or piss the entire time, and get a double queen room when two kings are the same price.
Soooooooo, yeah. Company favorite, but not mine.?ÿ
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Screw the union.?ÿ If you're an LSIT now, you can get a job everywhere else and do better.?ÿ I literally turn recruiters away daily and I am careful to where I apply because they are absolutely interested in people willing to climb the path of license and will be glad to Interview you and likely hire you.
Do what you need to do, but don't let someone or some company burn through you at this point.
Go find your next opportunity it's waiting for you there right now.
Leaving the program without finishing might mean not being able to work for another union-controlled business?
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another union-controlled business?
those words say it all.
I won't buy or live in HOA Controlled houses, because they cloud my fee simple. Survey license doesn't need a union, maybe it is for the non licensed for job and career security.?ÿ
it's a decision to consider though for sure .
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@bill93?ÿ
another union-controlled business?
those words say it all.
I won't buy or live in HOA Controlled houses, because they cloud my fee simple. Survey license doesn't need a union, maybe it is for the non licensed for job and career security.?ÿ
it's a decision to consider though for sure .
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I would maybe try to stick it out until this apprenticeship thing is done.?ÿ I say that because I don't know anything about survey unions and am not sure how badly it would screw you up to leave now.?ÿ But I've found when I was at places that I knew I didn't want to stay that just having an exit strategy relieved quite a lot of stress, so maybe it would work similarly for you.
Anyway, pounding hubs isn't so bad, imo.?ÿ I started out doing that and then shifted to office things as part of the PLS route and now I love any chance to jump out and pound hubs again. ?????ÿ
I agreed with a lot of the others here, about leaving and finding a better job.?ÿ
But then you mentioned union, and apprenticeship, etc., and will admit that's foreign to me, and probably to many others, as most surveyors and technicians are not part of a union.
So, you really have to weigh what's most important to you, sticking it out to attain whatever union designation, positions, and benefits it provides, or leave and see where your LSIT status and experience will land you.
