Javad LS Question

Frank,

I am one of the guys on the Javad Support Team.

I live in Ohio, so I have very little chance of being the guy that would be selling you one. Consider me therefore to simply be a very enthusiastic user.

I firmly believe that with proper use, it is impossible to get a "bad shot" from multipath. That statement does require a little qualification, but is completely true.

Multipath will reduce your accuracy, but again there are ways around that.

I absolutely love the form factor of the device. The software is constantly improving, and is extremely good as it is. Of significant note is that no external PC software is required for data conversions. The software will import and export native .dwg and dxf files, as well as any other format imagined. It will create your .pdf or .html job reports which include screen shots, photographs, voice recordings, and more statistical information than I understand. Users of Starnet will have no problems adjusting networks via the B files.

I could go on and on...but I also recommend that you look up the list of the Javad Support team, and give us a call for a serious conversation.

John Evers
Javad PLS Team

John Evers, post: 419076, member: 467 wrote: Users of Starnet will have no problems adjusting networks via the B files.

Clarification: G-files are what the LS exports for input with Star*Net. B-files contain metadata (e.g. project name, equipment used, stations observed, station accuracy) and are generated by the person preparing to bluebook a project.

I have it. (base, rover, 35 watt radio).

I just ordered the Javad metal detector, last week. Its around 5 ounces, and maybe 1.5" dia, and 8 inches long.

It's nothing short of very good.

I'm enthusiastic about it.

Nate.

Frank Willis, post: 419068, member: 472 wrote: Are any of you using the latest Javad box that has everything on the pole? How do you like it? good and bad???

Multipath protection good?

I use it everyday. I wouldn't want to use anything else. It does take some getting used to because it is so different from what everyone is used to using.

The RTK does really well even in canopy. However, if I had to pick the thing I like the best about it, I would say it is DPOS and the ability to post process all onboard. It will check and give you the difference between your RTK solution and the post processed solution.

For full disclosure I am also a member of the product development/testing and sales team.

The Good: I second DPOS. It's the best thing about the LS. Also the price, interference screens, J-tip, Camera offset survey, no cost firmware updates, battery life, ease of xporting files to dropbox/google drive, network rover is a breeze, RAMS is way too cool, switching between radio to cell off of the same base in a matter of couple of minutes thousands of feet or miles away is stupid simple, confidence in shots, but the most important reason other than DPOS is the Javad team that consistently updates Jfield. Those are some reasons to consider.

The Bad: If i had to pick one it would be that I love the concept and function of the smaller pole but its not "survey" quality. It is a lightweight and compact $350 camera pole that is weak and wobbly and is not as tough as the LS. I consider it my woods pole when i'm trying to stay as lightweight as possible. I put the adapter on and use a regular pole the rest of the time. I think Javad could make their own pole based on the same concept and it wouldn't be that much heavier. It works but thats my only gripe and its not that big of one.

After using this "box", I call it Thor, I can't ever see myself working without the crazy thing. It does everything that I need and it is so well thought out. I kind of thought Javad or another manufacturer cannot come out with enough cool toys to make me happy but i'm pretty happy right now.

I think most of us Javad Triumph LS users are in the "you'd have to pry it from my cold, dead fingers" camp.

I went back to being completely solo at the first of the year. I was solo for many years prior to having the LS. I did a lot of robotic traversing in mountain terrian. I don't have to do that this time around. I am currently working on a 70 acre boundary in Mitchell County NC. It's the county that contains the highest peak East of the sip. I have done all of it with the LS. Robots still in the truck. Truth be known if it weren't for the LS I would have been in trouble when my help left. My body can't hardly take what it requires to be solo using robotic equipment and no LS.

I am a practicing surveyor and a salesman for Javad.

The only time I did a mountain project with a robot I had 50 lbs. of gear on my back, and I wasn't happy. But it was in thick fir forest, and I don't think anybody's GPS would have been able to get the shots I needed.

I bought the system about a year and a half ago. Liked it so much that I bought a second system about 6 months ago. I almost never need to take the total station out of the box. JAVAD support is great. Learning curve is a little tough, however worth it.

I am a two man office. It has paid for itself many times. Has made as much of a difference in my life as CADD and EDM did.

I have been TRYING to "Break" the LS. So far, the WORST shot, I have gotten from it was 0.14' from the actual coord.
To break it, I mean, a fully verified 180" shot, that is wrong by more than 0.16'. I have been trying.
Once, I went to a 1/4 cor. All covered up with pines.
I set it up to auto record, 5 shots. Went to lunch. Came back an hr later, and SHE WAS DONE. 5 shots. And, after averaging it, I'd guess I have it within 0.04' or so.
Just from memory, they were all close, in shot spread. Maybe the worst was 0.11' spread. The worst ones, had a string line pattern on the LS, and showed a LARGE shot spread.

I'm 230 lbs and 6'2". I check decks, before trusting them.

GPS the same. If I think it is marginal, then often it gets shot twice or more. But, this old boy can't break it. Often, it gets the shot fast. I do believe it is BETTER than the BLM, on it's poorest shots!

O, and I am a practicing "pain" to the Javad team! 🙂

N

Can we get a JAVAD dealer to come to Alabama's conference to demonstrate their system? Also, does that pocket sized locator work by itself?

ASPLS 2017 Summer Conference

Consider making plans to attend the 2017 ASPLS Summer Conference in Orange Beach!

May 30-31, 2017
Perdido Beach Resort
Orange Beach, AL
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I've been using the Javad for about six months now, and like it more everyday. One of the things I learned is, you need to be patient with it so it can go through the verification routines. When you get the shot, you can move on confident, knowing you got a good shot. Still need to use common sense when your in a difficult situation, but that's where experience helps.

I've been using TDS data collection software since they started back in the day, so the Javad data collection software took a bit getting hang of. Once I got the thought process down, it was straight forward, just a different software package.

Everything enclosed in the unit on the pole is nice, and compact. The only draw back is it is a little top heavy, but not to bad when you have a normal 5-ft pole down all the way.

I have been working in the woods, and mountainous terrain the past fall and winter, and haven't had any issues with it. The only time I use the robot, is on smaller lot surveys, and building stake outs.

Support is great.

[USER=111]@Steve Gilbert[/USER]
J-tip has to work, in conjunction with the LS.
I don't have it in my hands yet.
It uses bluetooth connection to the LS.

N

Steve Gilbert, post: 419131, member: 111 wrote: Can we get a JAVAD dealer to come to Alabama's conference to demonstrate their system? Also, does that pocket sized locator work by itself?

ASPLS 2017 Summer Conference

Consider making plans to attend the 2017 ASPLS Summer Conference in Orange Beach!

May 30-31, 2017
Perdido Beach Resort
Orange Beach, AL
http://www.aspls.org ~ aspls@primemanagement.net

Dont know if I can make the conference but I'd be willing to drive to Alabama for a day if you and a few others were interested in seeing it in action. The conference's don't give much opportunity to really get out in the woods. Feel free to email me adam.javad5pls at gmail.