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(@jim-frame)
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This was left behind by a guy I bumped into this morning who said he needed to run levels " about 5 miles" for an elevation certificate. He claimed we were at the closest BM to his project, though I doubt it. I asked why he wasn't going to use GPS and he replied that they don't have any. Instead, he's going to trig it with shots about 1800 feet. And lots of paint.

 
Posted : 25/05/2016 10:37 am
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Should of gave him a can of Flo Orange so he could of highlighted his artwork. It would really stand out and jump out at you better...

Previous employment: Tagger...

 
Posted : 25/05/2016 11:02 am
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Looking west from my office window here in Massachusetts, I can just about make that out.

He didn't write the elevation on it though, which means I won't be able to use it for any of my projects. Too bad!

 
Posted : 25/05/2016 11:03 am
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He's going to eat up all his profits in spray paint! B-)

 
Posted : 25/05/2016 11:09 am
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One of my pet peeves is surveyors who paint the hell out of everything they locate and all their control.

 
Posted : 25/05/2016 11:46 am
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alphasurv, post: 373877, member: 1652 wrote: One of my pet peeves is surveyors who paint the hell out of everything they locate and all their control.

Well, how is dimwit #2 supposed to find it?!

 
Posted : 25/05/2016 12:38 pm
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Jim Frame, post: 373863, member: 10 wrote:

This was left behind by a guy I bumped into this morning who said he needed to run levels " about 5 miles" for an elevation certificate. He claimed we were at the closest BM to his project, though I doubt it. I asked why he wasn't going to use GPS and he replied that they don't have any. Instead, he's going to trig it with shots about 1800 feet. And lots of paint.

Uh, more than what you could do with a conventional level is too much even with trig levels, according to the NGS. 1800' is a LONG way. I bet his loop didn't close very well.

 
Posted : 25/05/2016 12:40 pm
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Jim Frame, post: 373863, member: 10 wrote:

This was left behind by a guy I bumped into this morning who said he needed to run levels " about 5 miles" for an elevation certificate. He claimed we were at the closest BM to his project, though I doubt it. I asked why he wasn't going to use GPS and he replied that they don't have any. Instead, he's going to trig it with shots about 1800 feet. And lots of paint.

Cripes. And Yikes. Are you gonna follow up with your gps just for fun? Assuming you will be able to find his footsteps.

 
Posted : 25/05/2016 12:54 pm
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Jim Frame, post: 373863, member: 10 wrote: He claimed we were at the closest BM to his project, though I doubt it.

[sarcasm]well that clearly says TBM, not BM[/sarcasm] 😀

I had to look at what the weather was like in that zip to understand if you could even see the prism over 1800'

 
Posted : 25/05/2016 1:06 pm
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Kris Morgan, post: 373889, member: 29 wrote: Uh, more than what you could do with a conventional level is too much even with trig levels, according to the NGS. 1800' is a LONG way. I bet his loop didn't close very well.

You're assuming there will be a "loop"!

 
Posted : 25/05/2016 1:47 pm
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Would it be wrong to chisel out that dot?? Hopefully he's not doing level 1 work!! My company would have a heart attack if that was one of my tp points!!!

 
Posted : 25/05/2016 2:48 pm
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Kris Morgan, post: 373889, member: 29 wrote: ...1800' is a LONG way. I bet his loop didn't close very well.

Quite honestly...you and both know with trig leveling and an 1800' FS....after a few of those you quite honestly have no earthly idea where you're at!

Some people will waste a tremendous amount of time and energy to avoid doing what is correct or required.

 
Posted : 25/05/2016 2:54 pm
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Ric Moore, post: 373900, member: 731 wrote: You're assuming there will be a "loop"!

My thoughts exactly.

 
Posted : 25/05/2016 3:10 pm
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Jason Graves, post: 373911, member: 9531 wrote: My thoughts exactly.

The absolute only thing that I will trig in is the shots from my local TBM to the house. No more than 75ft, which IMHO is no different than a topo survey at that point.

 
Posted : 25/05/2016 3:12 pm
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Not a good look. Actually really close to vandalism. A sharpie would have been sufficient.

 
Posted : 25/05/2016 3:16 pm
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If that were on a construction site or out in the middle of nowhere it'd be less offensive. Either way it'll be faded away before long.

 
Posted : 25/05/2016 5:10 pm
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I always am torn about the paint debate? After working the last 22 winters in the north east i appreciate fresh paint on a control point that has just been buried under snow. But that is a little much even for me... Now the trigging a elevation that is just silly.

 
Posted : 25/05/2016 6:47 pm
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You should have offered to GPS him a benchmark at the site for half the fee he was charging for the certificate.

 
Posted : 25/05/2016 6:54 pm
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The paint is pretty bad, but sadly it isnt the most offensive aspect of your post. His elevations are going to be blown apart! Judging from your photo, looks like it might have been a pleasantly sunny spring day to boot!

 
Posted : 25/05/2016 7:29 pm
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Ric Moore, post: 373900, member: 731 wrote: You're assuming there will be a "loop"!

[sarcasm]axe me no quesshions, I'll tell ewe no lies...[/sarcasm]

 
Posted : 25/05/2016 7:41 pm
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