lmbrls, post: 384040, member: 6823 wrote: I always get better accuracy when I drive a Ford truck. The Econo-Boost feature alone will increase positional accuracy by a full Sigma and decrease my carbon footprint. Note: My ex-wife had a step cousin that worked at a Ford Dealership.
Also, I think it would be great if Javad would buyout Star*NET. Think how he could innovate the software.
Dude, everyone knows the best raincoats in the world are made of steel and have a bowtie.
In full disclosure I am a Ford man.
dmyhill, post: 383910, member: 1137 wrote: I am on the other side of the OP. Most of the things that are brought up apply to every type of receiver. A certain brand is only the context of the conversation. I like the conversation, and it makes me think about my own practices and uses.
Some of the back-and-forth is trifling; however, I agree with this. As a gps-ill I'm pretty much gps illiterate
But I am about a decade behind when it comes to vehicles.
Fix Or Repair Daily has no home at my place.
All of mine were Found On Road Dead and I felt sorry for them.
Holy Cow, post: 384059, member: 50 wrote: Fix Or Repair Daily has no home at my place.
Let me guess. All my dairy farmer friends and neighbors drive Dodges.
We are a decade behind in trucks too, but all ours wear a bowtie everywhere.
Adam, post: 384060, member: 8900 wrote: All of mine were Found On Road Dead and I felt sorry for them.
F%$%ed
On
Race
Day
I guess I'm not paying that much attention.. I didn't even know this was an issue. I just click on the "recent posts" and self filter from the topics/posters. We all know the equipment does pretty much the same things. The math is the math. It's the interface with the hardware and software that's generally the issue. And that is totally subjective. It also has a lot to do with brand loyalty and using instruments that we have used in the past.
dmyhill, post: 384048, member: 1137 wrote: Dude, everyone knows the best raincoats in the world are made of steel and have a bowtie.
To be clear, I did not say that other Surveyors could not get equivalent results with an (inferio) I mean different truck. My theory proven by a Least Squares Adjustment is that the aluminum has less interference in the harmonic convergence of the RTK Ferries providing consistent enlighten epochs. Given enough time even unhappy ferries can give adequate results.
lmbrls, post: 384040, member: 6823 wrote: I think it would be great if Javad would buyout Star*NET. Think how he could innovate the software.
I would consider any fundamental change to StarNet a great tragedy. In any case I'm sure Javad Ashjee has the chops to doodle a spiffy LS program from scratch using only his left hand during a morning coffee break.
dmyhill, post: 384046, member: 1137 wrote: Scott,
Would you prefer for those who are involved in sales and support to NOT make expert comments on various topics?
For my part, I find Shawn's articles to be useful, and I have no Javad equipment, and most likely never will (not anti-Javad, it just doesn't fit).
I am 100% positive that Shawn would follow whatever instructions Wendell gave him, so I am not sure what the issue is. Why the hurt?
I made a general statement that this site was getting to many post from GPS sales people. Yes it is Wedell's site and I am sure at the end of the month went he is going thru his books, he wishes this site made more reneuve. Maybe Wendell could charge money for advertising in the signature line.
There is no hurt, however Shawn accused me of spreading manure about him and challenged me to read thur all of his post to find somewhere he was wrong "Feel free to share quotes that evidence my infractions" So I did.
Shawn Billings, post: 384026, member: 6521 wrote: It's a statement of fact that I provide sales and support for Javad. There were members of the forum that were disquieted that I did not disclose that fact, so I disclosed it. No I do not have advertising in my signature line. I added it in response to those who felt I was not being ethical by omitting that disclosure.
How is this not advertising?
Shawn Billings, RPLS
Owner of Pendulum Surveying in East Texas
I also provide sales, support and training for Javad Triumph-LS RTK SystemsYou should spend a little more time on your facts:
I don't know what equipment everyone uses, but I do know that DMyhill uses Topcon RTK, not Javad, and he started the thread about the new magnetic locator. No one had anything great to say about it because no one outside of the Javad test group has seen it. What do you expect people to say about a product with which they have no experience? Next, I was not defending a product in my thread "RTK for Boundary Surveying", I was defending a technology which is represented by numerous products from numerous manufacturers. I'm trusting you can see the difference.
A Surveyor would defend all RTK, your post was about the JAVAD RTK and post process which is what a Salesperson would defend.
I've walked about as far as I care to walk with you, Scott. Not sure why you have a bee in your bonnet regarding me and frankly don't really care at this point. I've made my case and I'll leave it to others to decide what is right.
from https://surveyorconnect.com/community/forums/gnss-geodesy.22/
Starting in 2008 I had the opportunity to provide product reviews for American Surveyor Magazine. I tested several brands of RTK systems. At the time, there was a noticeable difference in precision between some of the brands. Two stood out as remarkable from the others: Altus APS-3 and Javad Triumph-1. Others I had tested at the time were Leica 1200, Spectra Precision Epoch 25 (which was based as I recall on the Trimble 4800 internals), and ProMark 3 and ProMark 500 from Ashtech. The Altus and Javad systems produced precisions comparable to my experience with static GPS results. This ultimately led me to convince my Dad to invest in an Altus APS-3 system when we made our decision to buy RTK. In 2014 I tested a Champion GNSS system which used a Trimble board. This receiver also produced results that were comparable to my experience with static GPS. When I say results were comparable, I mean that we would usually set pairs of points that we would then occupy with a total station. We would always check the backsight (horizontal and vertical) and the results would typically be less than 0.02 foot horizontal and less than 0.04 foot vertical, which was also true for static GPS pairs. The advantage of RTK over static was that I knew the coordinates immediately in the field and could perform COGO on the spot. This did indeed speed the process of collecting field data immensely.
I did leave out one system that I have experience with, the SatLab SL-600. It's got a Trimble board too and produced some impressive precision. I can't speak to all RTK receivers because I don't have experience with all RTK receivers. I did state that I was sure by now that Topcon and Leica RTK systems would also produce quality, high precision results, but I can't speak to what I do not know.
Regarding post processing, my experience with other processors is getting pretty long in the tooth. There are several conceptions/misconceptions about occupation times regarding post processing. I demonstrated that at least one post processor can perform post processing in moderately challenging environments with 180 seconds of data. I can not speak to all processors as I have not tested all processors. Until I performed this test, I couldn't even speak to the processor I was using.
"A Surveyor would defend all RTK..." A surveyor, as you say, would not definitively speak to that which he does not know. Great Googlimoogily.
lmbrls, post: 384040, member: 6823 wrote: Also, I think it would be great if Javad would buyout Star*NET. Think how he could innovate the software.
Star*NET = MicroSurvey = Leica/Hexagon
Javad will get Star*NET when he pries it from their cold, dead, Swiss chocolate covered, hands.
Shawn Billings, post: 384089, member: 6521 wrote: Great Googlimoogily
I dunno that I have ever seen this exclamation spelled out before! Thats funny!
It didn't pass spell check so don't trust it 🙂
Shawn,
I do not appreciate you accusing me of using drugs. I have been professional with you and mature and have not once called you any names. First you accused me of talking manure about you, now you are accusing me of using drugs, which I do not do or use.
Personal attacks made by two users have been removed from this thread. The next step, if it continues, will be banning and removal of the entire thread.
