Is it jusr me, or is Kent ....

I don't think so.

Though I understand why that may be your perception, I can assure you he's anything but. Not only is he incredibly conscientious as a professional, but also extremely generous as a person. As an anecdote, I once called him to see if he might want to share what he knew about the ballpark of a project I was working on. Not only did he know (which I already knew- he's practically re-established and maintained- of his own prerogative- the control and boundary of large swaths of our downtown area), but I arrived at the office the next morning to a hand delivered map of all his data.

There are a few guys in this town that I hold in higher esteem, due to a variety of factors: mainly time served, the quality of the work I've followed, and/or their willingness to share with their fellow surveyors. Kent is one of those few- even though I think I've only ever met him personally one time, maybe two in passing.

A lot of people confuse trying to get facts and knowledge through a sometimes thick skull as "bullying". Some people you just cannot tell something just one time before you see that light come on.
Whenever you have a lot of knowledge of certain facts that may conflict with a preconceived notion, you have to reiterate your facts a number of times or switch to a more forceful manner to get the ides across.
I have MANY years of military instruction to understand where he is coming from on some occasions. Some junior enlisted people strongly resisted learning. I'm sure some of them considered me to be a bully, but I outranked them, so I was not real concerned. As long as they learned to do it the "Army Way".
If you do a careful review of the posts on this site, you will easily see that Kent has his snit together and is usually correct in his assertions. Perhaps this is a good opportunity for some people to learn?

> use superior strength and/or influence to intimidate, typically to force one to think

I wouldn't say that I have superior strength, but I won't say that I object to folks thinking about surveying practices. I mean, it's not as if all solutions are always equally good and the quality of our work collectively is what qualifies us as a profession, isn't it?

:good:
DDSM

watch and learn

for you sensitive forum participants - i've been watching kent opine for many years. his comments are sincere, not obligatory, and mostly appropriate.

I don't agree with posting this on a professional forum. Entirely inappropriate.

For the many years I have known Kent, he is sincere, generous with his comments, articulate, and a consummate professional. He also had been known to exhibit a wry sense of humour with evidence of a gentle sardonic wit when the circumstances (and the poster) warrant.

Of course, he needs no help from me...

> For the many years I have known Kent, he is sincere, generous with his comments, articulate, and a consummate professional. He also had been known to exhibit a wry sense of humour with evidence of a gentle sardonic wit when the circumstances (and the poster) warrant.

I'm adding that to my curriculum vitae. :>

Kent is the Fred Astaire of Surveying.

> a Bully
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> noun
> a person who uses strength and/or power to harm and/or intimidate.
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> verb
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> use superior strength and/or influence to intimidate, typically to force one to think and to do what he wants.

Only to the degree you let him. He can't make you think his way, and he doesn't visit your house to beat you down. And, if something seems wacky, I stop reading that post before I get mad.

Now there's an impossible role to play. Lovely thought, though. May we all find our inner Fred Astaire in surveying matters.

Now that makes since~

Unlike the symbols or line types that I don't use.

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