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I have a copy of a poorly done survey from 2006 by a local surveyor. Beyond poor research used to make boundary decisions, the plat looks bad. One of my personal pet peeves is the overuse of abbreviations, and this plat is a great example. Is it that hard to type "Iron Rod Set" instead of "IRS"? Who the hell is supposed to know what "IRS" is?

A couple of other funny things:
"SCALE 1 INCH = 300.00 FEET" Wow that's pretty precise printing!
"Fence Corner for corner - 1/2" IRS @ base" ?!?

 
Posted : June 24, 2015 7:27 am
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Shawn Billings, post: 324086, member: 6521 wrote: I have a copy of a poorly done survey from 2006 by a local surveyor. Beyond poor research used to make boundary decisions, the plat looks bad. One of my personal pet peeves is the overuse of abbreviations, and this plat is a great example. Is it that hard to type "Iron Rod Set" instead of "IRS"? Who the hell is supposed to know what "IRS" is?

A couple of other funny things:
"SCALE 1 INCH = 300.00 FEET" Wow that's pretty precise printing!
"Fence Corner for corner - 1/2" IRS @ base" ?!?

I don't mind abbreviations, but there HAS to be a legend!

 
Posted : June 24, 2015 7:42 am
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so whats the corner? the fence or the IRS??

 
Posted : June 24, 2015 7:42 am
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surveyor85, post: 324093, member: 9748 wrote: so whats the corner? the fence or the IRS??

IDK

LOL

just being ironic. I don't know which he used. From a comparison of measurements, I think it was the fence corner post.

 
Posted : June 24, 2015 7:47 am
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WTH!? I've seen pin cushions, but never a pin cushion created by the same dude...

 
Posted : June 24, 2015 7:51 am
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surveyor85, post: 324098, member: 9748 wrote: WTH!? I've seen pin cushions, but never a pin cushion created by the same dude...

We have a monument here where the son put a new punch mark in the cap his father set 40 years earlier!

 
Posted : June 24, 2015 7:53 am
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I didn't realize McMillimeter's father was also a land surveyor. :-S

 
Posted : June 24, 2015 7:58 am
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That reminds me of a "Professional Tech" I worked with that stated "it does not matter what is on the drawing because nobody reads it or understands what it is for except me".
He applies that philosophy daily and can whoop out a decent engineering drawing or topo as fast and to quality as anyone I've seen.
His boundary drawings are painful to look at and read to say the least.
He once had a creek boundary drawn as curves with no curve data, just a linear footage for the entire length of the winding creek.
I can always tell it is his drawing when at the found property monuments his brackets will indicate how far off the original monument is (eg. 0.12ft north and 0.06ft west).
He has presented me with so many OMG & WTF moments.

 
Posted : June 24, 2015 8:12 am
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my personal pet peeve around here is the all purpose "iron pin" shown on the local low-baller's plats.:pissed: That and how every distance and bearing matches the original to the second and 0.1'o.O ( can you say paper survey?)

 
Posted : June 24, 2015 8:32 am
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surveyor85, post: 324098, member: 9748 wrote: WTH!? I've seen pin cushions, but never a pin cushion created by the same dude...

I have a picture, which I've posted here more than once, of a situation where a guy pincushioned himself. Furthermore this is a recording state, both monuments were of record, both were sticking up out of the ground a few inches, and the guy who did it was the County Surveyor - who as such is the guy in charge of maintaining the records.

 
Posted : June 24, 2015 8:35 am
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The fence corner is probably what he held. Knowing it won't last forever, he set a rod at the base. Kind of like setting a rod at the base of a dead tree snag. If it's called out like he has it, at least there will be a monument 100 years from now.

 
Posted : June 24, 2015 9:44 am
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Even if it spell out Iron Rod Set or Iron Pin Set, it still does not meet the standards without stating what sixe and type of rod or pin was set. The same goes for found monuments.

 
Posted : June 24, 2015 10:25 am
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Shawn Billings, post: 324086, member: 6521 wrote: I have a copy of a poorly done survey from 2006 by a local surveyor. Beyond poor research used to make boundary decisions, the plat looks bad. One of my personal pet peeves is the overuse of abbreviations, and this plat is a great example. Is it that hard to type "Iron Rod Set" instead of "IRS"? Who the hell is supposed to know what "IRS" is?

A couple of other funny things:
"SCALE 1 INCH = 300.00 FEET" Wow that's pretty precise printing!
"Fence Corner for corner - 1/2" IRS @ base" ?!?

Garnett Beard, who is now deceased, once told my dad that he drew all plats on legal sheets, regardless of size, because a No. 2 Leroy pen at 1"=200' or larger took up 99% of all fence protrusions or intrusions.

He DID set corners and measured well to them, but I don't think they always ended up on the corners (nearly never).

 
Posted : June 24, 2015 12:56 pm
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Idiot Wind, post: 324116, member: 6187 wrote: The fence corner is probably what he held. Knowing it won't last forever, he set a rod at the base. Kind of like setting a rod at the base of a dead tree snag. If it's called out like he has it, at least there will be a monument 100 years from now.

I can't really go along with that. I guess in a really, really rural setting that would work, but I wouldn't do that if +/-3 feet is out of tolerance. Everywhere I survey (with bottom land comprising the rare exception) +/-3 feet won't do it.

 
Posted : June 24, 2015 2:44 pm
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Steve Gilbert, post: 324119, member: 111 wrote: Even if it spell out Iron Rod Set or Iron Pin Set, it still does not meet the standards without stating what sixe and type of rod or pin was set. The same goes for found monuments.

I agree. In this case he did say 1/2" IRS, so the size is there, the description leaves a little or lot to be desired though.

 
Posted : June 24, 2015 2:45 pm
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Kris Morgan, post: 324161, member: 29 wrote: Garnett Beard, who is now deceased, once told my dad that he drew all plats on legal sheets, regardless of size, because a No. 2 Leroy pen at 1"=200' or larger took up 99% of all fence protrusions or intrusions.

He DID set corners and measured well to them, but I don't think they always ended up on the corners (nearly never).

Can't be perfect at everything, Kris. Set his rods, measured to them but they weren't at the right place. 2 out of 3 is pretty good.

Regarding scale, I don't mind the 1"=300', I just thought it was funny carrying out 300 feet to the hundredth of a foot (300.00'). Significant digits much?

 
Posted : June 24, 2015 2:48 pm
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1/2" IRS - it's fairly obvious what it means.

If you start recovering anything other than 1/2" rod/rebar, etc., then I guess, then there'd be a problem.

 
Posted : June 25, 2015 8:57 am