Is this happening everywhere?
Excerpt from the Florida Board of Professional Surveyors and Mappers Spring 2016 Newsletter.
ÛÏCurrently there are 2,630 registered Professional Surveyors and Mappers in Florida.
- 117 of these are female
- 174 are 40 or younger
- 1,111 are 60 and older (this is a large number that will retire around the same time)
- Each year 45-50 new licenses are issued in Florida.Û
Yup. NY had 4 licenses issued this October exam period.
So half of the licensed surveyors are between 40 and 60. I'm not sure that's a problem.
I think the concern is the replacement rate is so low that in 25 years everyone currently 40 and over will be gone- 2000 licensees, but only 1000 will have come online to take their place.... and they'll all have participation ribbons.......
NY has averaged 34 new licensees per year and currently has 1488 surveyors. I cannot find an age breakdown.
Average age of RPLS in Texas was 57 in 2014.
Since I don't live in other areas of the country, I'm not going to speak of conditions I don't know about. However, there is not a shortage of young surveyors in this area. I went to a recent TAPS chapter meeting, and of the 6 of us, I was the second oldest, and I'm only 41. There are two licensed surveyors in this county younger than me, one in the county to the south, and 2 in the county to the west.
Yesterday, I attended the Florida Board of Professional Surveyors and Mappers board meeting at Disney, while I was in Orlando.
Watched the board grill two Surveyors for a couple hours. They reviewed 6 maps, with all fields notes from each surveyor. This is the second review session for both of them. Which means they both failed the first reviews. One of failed, and the other passed this second review.
This may explain why there are so few young professionals in FL.
Was just talking to my buddy the other day and he said that the legal profession is going through the opposite problem. When the economy tanked too many people went to law school. And other professions with graduate degrees are facing a similar gluttony of candidates. http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2013/03/21/No-New-Lawyers-Economy-Cant-Handle-Them
leegreen, post: 372790, member: 2332 wrote: Yesterday, I attended the Florida Board of Professional Surveyors and Mappers board meeting at Disney, while I was in Orlando.
Watched the board grill two Surveyors for a couple hours. They reviewed 6 maps, with all fields notes from each surveyor. This is the second review session for both of them. Which means they both failed the first reviews. One of failed, and the other passed this second review.
This may explain why there are so few young professionals in FL.
That's interesting I was there also. Came in around 9 and had to stand against the wall. Had to leave early but did see the one surveyor get blasted for his re-submittal. I was disappointed in the way some surveyors were dressed attending a Board meeting. Finally got to see Robin Petzold for the first time in 28 years, we worked together in West Palm Beach.
FL/GA PLS., post: 372795, member: 379 wrote: That's interesting I was there also. Came in around 9 and had to stand against the wall. Had to leave early but did see the one surveyor get blasted for his re-submittal. I was disappointed in the way some surveyors were dressed attending a Board meeting. Finally got to see Robin Petzold for the first time in 28 years, we worked together in West Palm Beach.
I noticed the interesting attire. Being from NY, I just assumed Florida Surveyors dressed that way. It was snowing when I left Syracuse and near 90å¡ when I landed in Orlando.
I was surprised there was no visible security. Grill a guy like that and threaten to take away his entire livelihood. He just may explode. Very apparent he was getting irrate.
FL/GA PLS., post: 372286, member: 379 wrote: Is this happening everywhere?
Excerpt from the Florida Board of Professional Surveyors and Mappers Spring 2016 Newsletter.
ÛÏCurrently there are 2,630 registered Professional Surveyors and Mappers in Florida.
- 117 of these are female
- 174 are 40 or younger
- 1,111 are 60 and older (this is a large number that will retire around the same time)
- Each year 45-50 new licenses are issued in Florida.Û
Sweet, in about 10 years, surveyors can start making good money there again!
With experience and degree requirements, a person is probably pushing 30 before they are minimally qualified. It doesn't surprise me that the majority of surveyors are 40 to 60. The number of new surveyors coming on line is pretty low, but in Florida we had a surge of new surveyors in the early 2000s getting in under the wire for the degree-only cut off. I wonder how the number of new surveyors compares to surveyors who let their license expire each year.
leegreen, post: 372790, member: 2332 wrote: Yesterday, I attended the Florida Board of Professional Surveyors and Mappers board meeting at Disney, while I was in Orlando.
Dang, Disney is really upping the level of entertainment.
I again remind everyone that about 8 years ago the bottom fell out of the job market for entry level survey staff. That translates into few people reaching the qualifying level of experience today.
If the number of practicing licensed persons drops that means that those remaining will be supervising more technicians. Better we should be figuring out how we are going to do that efficiently and effectively rather than somehow trying to rush people to the top of the profession. The marketplace will take care of the deficiency in due time.
