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Based on CAD standards, north should always be illustrated as being Up or to the Right. It references how the sheet is held when being viewed.


T. Nelson - SAM

 
Posted : January 23, 2019 1:17 pm
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Don't forget that flowing water can only be shown left to right, otherwise it would imply it's flowing uphill.


 
Posted : January 23, 2019 1:27 pm
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Posted by: Squirltech

Better get busy horse whipping DOTs then. In my experience, they seem to do it the most.

That comes from a historical background. Cross sections/profiles and maps were hand drawn on very long rolls. Maps were oriented so they would fit better. I know that doesn't make sense anymore.

?ÿ

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Posted : January 23, 2019 1:36 pm
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Posted by: Richard Imrie

Don't forget that flowing water can only be shown left to right, otherwise it would imply it's flowing uphill.

Actually, almost all the P&P sheets we drew had the "low" end on the left so the water flowed from right to left for sanitary and storm sewers (grin).

Andy

?ÿ


 
Posted : January 23, 2019 2:21 pm
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Posted by: James Fleming
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This thread is showing your Toxic Northist Privilege.

Those of that naturally favor South will have Justice one way or the other.?ÿ South Arrowists Rise Up! You only have your Northist Chains to Lose!

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North up is tradition. ?ÿSouth up is progressive. Make North Great Again.?ÿ

You are clearly a victim of the Northie-archy.?ÿ We need to teach young surveyors how to avoid Toxic Northilinity so that they can be better people.


 
Posted : January 23, 2019 5:33 pm

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Posted by: Gromaticus

If North is always supposed to be up, then why do North arrows exist?

To trigger folks who reference their world view relative to the East. Not like that is a bad thing.


 
Posted : January 23, 2019 5:50 pm
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Posted by: Gromaticus

If North is always supposed to be up, then why do North arrows exist?

To trigger folks who reference their world view relative to the East. Not like that is a bad thing.


 
Posted : January 23, 2019 5:50 pm
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Posted by: Rankin_File
Posted by: Gromaticus

If North is always supposed to be up, then why do North arrows exist?

To trigger folks who reference their world view relative to the East. Not like that is a bad thing.

Don't get me started on the Eastocracy.


 
Posted : January 23, 2019 5:55 pm
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Apparently the word "news" as in "tonight's news report", is an abbreviation of north, south, east west - i.e. information from all directions.


 
Posted : January 23, 2019 5:59 pm
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Never

Eat

Shredded

Wheat


 
Posted : January 23, 2019 6:10 pm

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Posted by: RADAR

Never

Eat

Shredded

Wheat

That's a handy one for finding north and south, but east and west (left or right) are ambiguous, so there must be another part to it.


 
Posted : January 23, 2019 6:16 pm
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Anyway, as said before, the typical telecon trying to find somebody's whereabouts around here is:

Me: Where are you?

They: I'm here?

Me: Here is a very big place. Where are you?

They: I'm here, near there?

Not much point asking about north.


 
Posted : January 23, 2019 6:22 pm
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I place maps in folders with North to the top or to the left.

Drawings are always North to top.

I also adjust my text to read when the map is turned North to the top.

Right of way plans, design plans and other engineering drawings and architect drawings are a who knows basis.

We were laying out a rail car wood chip dumper and the plans were generic drawn with one end being where the rails came in and the other where they went out. After having everything set in place for the concrete pour, 1st year engineer showed up and decided the pivotal mounts were on the wrong end and had the carpenters change them out, WRONG. The entire combined construction side of things blew a gasket when that was discovered. He was company family and was not blamed for anything.


 
Posted : January 23, 2019 6:34 pm
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Can Dead Men Vote Twice?

Compass Deviation Magnetic Variation True (add east)...learned that from my Father.

A navigation thing, deviation is the amount the compass is off because it's installed in a metal airplane.


 
Posted : January 23, 2019 8:05 pm
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And going in the opposite order, "TV Makes Dull Company" ƒ?? learned in the context of boating.

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Posted : January 24, 2019 7:30 am

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Posted by: Richard Imrie
Posted by: RADAR

Never

Eat

Shredded

Wheat

That's a handy one for finding north and south, but east and west (left or right) are ambiguous, so there must be another part to it.

Start at the top (N) and go around the compass clockwise.

Is clockwise the same direction downunder?

Related image


 
Posted : January 24, 2019 9:55 am
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I like the sound of a South arrow.


 
Posted : January 24, 2019 3:32 pm
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Not to get all political, but which way is north is sort of up in the air right now...?ÿ

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a25904112/the-government-shutdown-is-messing-with-north/

Also curious which way is north is to a flatearther ...?ÿ

?ÿ


Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.

 
Posted : January 24, 2019 3:49 pm
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Posted by: Williwaw

Not to get all political, but which way is north is sort of up in the air right now...?ÿ

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a25904112/the-government-shutdown-is-messing-with-north/

Also curious which way is north is to a flatearther ...?ÿ

?ÿ

Up!

See City Slickers (1 or 2, I can't remember which for sure).


 
Posted : January 24, 2019 4:25 pm
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Here it is:


 
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