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How Far to the Other Side of the Fence?

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The other day when I mentioned that there were more than a few times when it would take more than an hour just to drive to a spot on the other side of an 8 ft. high game fence with no unlocked gates, I also had at the back of my mind one extreme case where the route between the two sides of the fence was about sixty miles, broken down as follows:

8 miles on 10 mph average jeep trails
19 miles on 25 mph dirt roads
28 miles on 65 mph paved highways
5 miles on 30 mph bladed caliche road

So, as a fun math problem, how much time would it have taken to drive from one side to the other side of the fence if there are five gates to be opened and closed along the way? Did you say more than two hours? Yes, and that's only if you didn't have a flat tire on one of those off-road miles.


 
Posted : September 20, 2013 7:59 pm
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As is usually the case, no one size fits all problems. But, I'd be willing to wager next weeks lunch money that a reflectorless total station would come in handy on at least one occasion, perhaps more.


 
Posted : September 20, 2013 8:13 pm
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Why don't we have jet packs yet?

If there is a better use for one I don't know what it is?


 
Posted : September 20, 2013 8:14 pm
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> Why don't we have jet packs yet?
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> If there is a better use for one I don't know what it is?

First, don't we buy a remote-control helicopter?


 
Posted : September 20, 2013 8:16 pm
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> As is usually the case, no one size fits all problems. But, I'd be willing to wager next weeks lunch money that a reflectorless total station would come in handy on at least one occasion, perhaps more.

I'm thinking maybe the reflectorless instrument would serve the purporse perfectly well in 5% or fewer of the occasions when climbing the fence is the best solution. Now, when the X-ray reflectorless total station comes to market, that may change.


 
Posted : September 20, 2013 8:18 pm

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Trimble is coming out with a small drone. Park your truck under a shade tree and take a nap while the drone scans the heck out of the place then feeds the data into your supercomputer which analyzes all the data and determines which trees are BTs and where the buried stone mounds are. No need to climb over fences.


 
Posted : September 20, 2013 8:37 pm
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> Trimble is coming out with a small drone. Park your truck under a shade tree and take a nap while the drone scans the heck out of the place then feeds the data into your supercomputer which analyzes all the data and determines which trees are BTs and where the buried stone mounds are. No need to climb over fences.

Now, that doesn't sound too far fetched......

These drones that you speak of, do they possess any other skills?


 
Posted : September 20, 2013 8:49 pm
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I would have sworn that was a javad remote control ground penetrating scanner with lightcubed software helicopter? Am I wrong?


 
Posted : September 20, 2013 8:52 pm
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> Trimble is coming out with a small drone. Park your truck under a shade tree and take a nap while the drone scans the heck out of the place then feeds the data into your supercomputer which analyzes all the data and determines which trees are BTs and where the buried stone mounds are. No need to climb over fences.

You *do* have a monthly maintenance agreeement, I hope? So many buyers make the mistake of thinking that owning the hardware means something. It doesn't unless you have either (a) an extremely well-written owner's manual or (b) someone who speaks English fairly well (this would include many Canadians but few Scots or residents of Maine or certain other unintelligible parts of the US) who will answer the phone and questions.


 
Posted : September 20, 2013 8:52 pm
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Well a certain amount of the software usage is "free" but your data is fed through Google and Facebook servers which have some vague way of making millions from it.


 
Posted : September 20, 2013 9:12 pm

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We are not authorized to confirm or deny any such other skills.


 
Posted : September 20, 2013 9:15 pm
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Javan firmware is advanced decades beyond anything else on the market but unfortunately the homemade cables and system board made from old Heathkit radio kits have not met our, uh, reliability requirements.


 
Posted : September 20, 2013 9:18 pm
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If you don't have a Fence Post Stepper , you need one. 🙂


 
Posted : September 20, 2013 9:27 pm
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> If you don't have a Fence Post Stepper , you need one.

Well, we're talking 8 ft. high fences where a tee-section line post would not as a rule be a safe place to climb a fence. You want to climb the fence at one of the more substantial pipe posts or, better yet, at a corner post with welded pipe braces.


 
Posted : September 20, 2013 9:37 pm
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two words...

pole vault.


 
Posted : September 20, 2013 9:45 pm

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two words...

> pole vault.

Okay, I clicked on your post thinking it would read "pine tree" instead of his slur touching upon the population who are mostly of Polish extraction. I mean, when the fence just runs from tree to tree, doesn't a person just climb up one side of the tree and down the other? No Poles necessary for that one unless a joke is involved, eh?


 
Posted : September 20, 2013 9:56 pm
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McSandbagger

Dammit Kent, cut it out. You know you’re sandbagging these good folks by waving a red herring about getting over 8 foot tall fences when all along you’ve been using quality mail order products from this fine company for years:

You've got a lot of gall perpetuating such a fraud, having recently posted a photo of you in your youth wearing an early prototype of Acme’s #1 fence surmounting product:

And even your wiener dogs use Acme products and you know it - so just share your silly “trade secrets” and let’s get on with some serious survey discussions:


 
Posted : September 20, 2013 11:17 pm
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McSandbagger

Way too funny!!!

Randy


 
Posted : September 21, 2013 5:26 am
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McSandbagger

Gentlemen
Believe me when I say that drones and alternate forms of remote sensing will re-write the surveying and engineering landscape techno wise.
A scanner on a drone?
Imagine some of the possibilities. I know someone has.


 
Posted : September 21, 2013 6:29 am
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We have encountered cases where it was a smart choice to have two vehicles involved. One working on side A and one on side B. For us, this would normally be along significant stretches of river. Simple, fast and a better deal for us and the client. Much, much safer than using any method of crossing over and back numerous times and attempting to scale the banks. Use those little grey cells between the ears for something other than judging wine.


 
Posted : September 21, 2013 7:09 am

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