5 hours 45 minutes according to Google.
Kent McMillan, post: 312119, member: 3 wrote: Parts of the Panhandle don't require that wide a brush.
The population of the entire OK panhandle - 3 counties - comes to around 28,000 people. I don't know exactly how many of them are surveyors but I'd wager it can't be much above half a dozen. Just a few spatters ought to do the job.
All I can do is shake my head. Some folks just try too hard on the wrong subjects....
I see absolutely nothing wrong with that, as long as the LS knows what he's doing. I've traveled that far to do work. I understand there's some local knowledge, but unless you hide all your monuments and research materials, to try to keep it all to yourselves, it shouldn't be a problem.
JPH, post: 407509, member: 6636 wrote: I see absolutely nothing wrong with that, as long as the LS knows what he's doing. I've traveled that far to do work. I understand there's some local knowledge, but unless you hide all your monuments and research materials, to try to keep it all to yourselves, it shouldn't be a problem.
well, so long as a component part of the LS' knowledge is making a few phone calls along the lines of "whose ear would i need to bend to get a little insight into the area?" i've always done that when working in san antonio, houston, and dfw. because despite me being duly qualified by all prescribed regulations, and the ostensible uniformity of standards and practices within the 254 counties of texas, anyone who has done this longer than about a week understands that "local" means something.
not to mention making those calls, and perhaps even paying a visit or three to some local surveyors, would count as a component part of due diligence. heck, i make that phone call most of the time even when i'm following (or adjoining) somebody else's work in areas i work in all the time.
Yup. Check with the locals. There are goldmines out there, but you have to find them. Without those goldmines of information you are urinating in a typhoon.
Added a job about a week ago under the assumption there would be zero surveys of aid since the Government Field Notes 150 years ago. Did some online checking for corner records. BAM!! Another local surveyor covered the entire section about two years ago. Guess who is going to be spending some time with me getting this job done efficiently and profitably for both of us.
Depends on the job, location, etc., whether I talk to anyone. In the North, no one likes to give anything up, and lots of times what they do, is pretty useless.
Lots of times the last survey was never, except when the fences or walls were built.
JPH, post: 407541, member: 6636 wrote: Depends on the job, location, etc., whether I talk to anyone. In the North, no one likes to give anything up, and lots of times what they do, is pretty useless.
Lots of times the last survey was never, except when the fences or walls were built.
It's a crapshoot up here too. Some fellas freely share their info and some don't. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to realize those that don't share their info possess inferior (and possibly fraudulent) info...if they have anything at all. Those of us that freely share out info know each other and depend heavily on the courtesy.
I was on a job Monday where a half of a quarter section had been bounded with corners set recently. It was one of many local rural surveyors that performed the boundary. These guys get used to no one ever seeing their crap.
The property owner showed me the survey. It was a brief and miserable mess. And none of the gov't corners that were missing had been reset or referenced (against statutes), but he was somehow able to set monuments on the R/W. I could turn all that info over to the BOR but the perp would just wiggle out of it like he always does.
Karma gets those guys. If he ever calls me for some info (he will), I'm probably going to tell him "hell no!"...not until he cleans up his act. How's that for being "to the point?" 😉
