Have you ever been told to get off a site.

Never on purpose.?ÿ Ignorance has creeped in on occasion but you live and learn and do better next time.?ÿ ?ÿIt's my job to make sure my crews have the appropriate training, (whatever it is) before they hit the site and before we provide our cost.?ÿ?ÿ

Yeah I was caught between a rock and a hard place. We had nobody else. Crew chief gone plans before i came on board. I get the call on a Sunday night. I say ok and did 13 hour days for two weeks until I was caught. Not even a safety violation I was following all the rules. Just was noticed and my new face caught the eye. We just hired some new chiefs and I told my boss I want them trained asap so we can not be in that position again. So I have a rainy day coming up and they will be doing nothing but training all that day. I am going to do mine as well if I can get all my other office work done so in a jam I can put my boots on and get to the site. I have been here barely a month at the new company and was not a good feeling for sure.?ÿ

I had some A$$hat walk up to me and get a smarmy and passive aggressively ask me if I would mind putting on my hard hat (was wearing my Boonie hat and a bandana to keep the sun off me, nothing overhead as the site was barely pouring footers...)

So I smiled and walked back to the truck and grabbed it....

and when he walked by with some equipment rep who was just walking around with sneakers and a baseball cap and I said "Watch out you might need your hard hat out here it's dangerous..."

He quickly ushered his buddy away and didn't bother me the rest of the time I was there....

Safety is a serious topic.?ÿ But if you're just using it as a control tool you're becoming a tool.

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@jitterboogie Yes for sure. On one site the guys are always getting in trouble about safety gloves. I need to research and find out what kind of gloves will work with the TSC7 and meet the requirements for a job. They usually keep one on one hand the other in the pocket. I understand all safety stuff for sure. I where safety sun glasses for every day use on farm. I just use them always. I have several sets of leather gloves for farm work. But I am in the middle of some site and nothing up above why do i need a hard hat. I hit my head more with it on than off lol. But when you have someone who is paid to make sure people follow the rules I reckon I cannot complain as they are just doing their job. It just messes me up from doing mine sometimes. ?ÿ

i bet you will be on that fellow naughty list for Christmas. ?ÿLol but very nice. On that Henderson 2000 project the EOD guy did not give a darn. He would make all sorts of pranks on the osha inspectors. He was a explosive guy in Vietnam. And he was wild old fellow. The osha folks saw him and suddenly they went to the other end of the project. The rest of us had to deal with the osha folks but not him lol.?ÿ

@olemanriver?ÿ

The stylus is the best tool on the TSC7

unless you get the fancy real glass screen protector, then us have to use a finger.

I worked around a bunch of different EOD people from Navy Marines Air force and Army....

True story.... We were wrapping up a removal action in Hawthorne Nevada. I was doing logistics and got a chance to head out to the actual work site and see what the results were in place with all the work that we've been doing.

learned how to make daisies out of det cord, got to learn and watch the nuances of what EOD is and the professionalism that they work with and every day safety.

So I'm soaking all this in, someone says oh crap I forgot something in the truck so I said I'll go get it turn on take two steps in a slow jog someone screams the top of their lungs" NO RUNNING IN THE GRID!!!!!"

Apparently the safety aspect is two fold: You might trip and get hurt or accidentally leave the safety of the swept area, in conversely over beers in many alcoholic drinks later that night it's also "why is he running should we be running to!?!?!?!!!!!!

The climax was the prepping for disposal of all the bang they had to wrap up all the debt cord with all the extra secondary because you can't send it back to the factory no Bell doesn't really appreciate that and won't pay for it anyway so that was kind of a nice 4th of July experience from 2 miles away the impact of that shockwave was still incredibly Awakening.

fun times on the range

?ÿno running in the grid!

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@jitterboogie When they are working they are in the zone for sure. When no work they can drink with the best lol. I surveyed several mind fields worked very close with eod folks when i was i in the service. Great times. ?ÿWe did several experiments by locating different items with reflective shots . To see if the reflector less edm would set them off. ?ÿNo rf allowed. I did some work as a non military at a facility where lots of testing was done. I did a ton of laser scanning and laser tracker measurements for testing. It really fell more i to metrology than survey but was cool to learn and the precision and accuracy was always very very tight. ?ÿI scanned fragments that weighed a few ounces with faro arm. And built surfaces. Can you imagine taking something as small as a pea and getting a million points on it. Unbelievable at the technology that is out there. Xray measurements were also a totally new thing to me. I could understand the scanning arm and laser tracker but xray was a eye opener. I had to place all testing areas and scenarios on a datum and a relative coordinates system. And within that vertical areas had to be extracted and made into a unique system for mechanical engineers to reverse engineer . ?ÿOne phd was working on curvature and refraction studies for various effects on lasers. Short range long range . I did a lot of gps for the long range studies. Did you ever go to white sands .

@olemanriver?ÿ

Ha.?ÿ I almost applied to a job there earlier this year, and spent 2 years on the "good side" of that pass in The Crosses surveying for the city.

I got to work on a project in 2009 where the egghead's had developed an IED detection platform using ISAR with a butt load of DARPA monies and investors.

When we were at China Lake, all of the big companies like Northrop Grumman Lockheed Martin general Dynamics the CIA actually had two platforms that were not disclosed and two other private companies, were trying to show proof of concept....

I think our team did pretty well because we could detect a 105 shell buried about 4 ft deep from 10,000 ft above the ground but they're really scary part was we could also detect a 28 gauge wire buried 4 ft deep as well cuz that was prior to when cell phones really started to take over for the detonating process over there.

What we worked on saved lives and was cool to be a part of.

I was in the wrong room when some Dude with sunglasses inside starts talking...and mentions EFP....

Someone asked "What's an EFP?"

I calmly and quickly answered "Explosively formed penetrator " to which I drew the attention of our friend with sunglasses inside the dark hotel room and he looks and scans around the room and notices that I haven't been in any of the other briefings.

then ihe gets all big and mighty and pipes up" this is top secret and above anyone without clearance needs to evacuate the area immediately..."

so I stood up turned my chair around and looked at?ÿ everybody gave a wink and said " see you guys tomorrow... wheels up at 0400 have a good night bye."

@jitterboogie lol. I tell you there is no such thing as secrets lol. Ied detection devices. We called the fart sniffers. ?ÿMany ways to do all that many ways. And i can tell you know several. ?ÿA lot of ways were accidentally discovered doing something totally different. All the big names of dod . I am glad to be out of that. But I will go back in a heartbeat if my country needs me to. But much younger folks way smarter than I. ?ÿI just hope they can keep it together when the crap starts. Thats when brains are not as needed as nerves. ?ÿSome people the more things get out of control the calmer they get others the opposite. All the suites and ties folks. Play a role. Its the workers that make it happen.

Hard hat was mandatory on a job where the only thing likely to hit me on the noggin would be a fresh blob of hawk poop.?ÿ Or a leaf departing a tree for the season.

@jitterboogie lol. I tell you there is no such thing as secrets lol. Ied detection devices. We called the fart sniffers. ?ÿMany ways to do all that many ways. And i can tell you know several. ?ÿA lot of ways were accidentally discovered doing something totally different. All the big names of dod . I am glad to be out of that. But I will go back in a heartbeat if my country needs me to. But much younger folks way smarter than I. ?ÿI just hope they can keep it together when the crap starts. Thats when brains are not as needed as nerves. ?ÿSome people the more things get out of control the calmer they get others the opposite. All the suites and ties folks. Play a role. Its the workers that make it happen.

It's super gratifying to see what you work on get built. The boots on the ground are the ones who do it.?ÿ

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I think most of these safety guys punt someone occasionally simply to help justify their paycheck.

The only time I've been kicked off a site was an awkward situation where I had just started with a new company (not surveying).?ÿ They sent me to a project where the GC didn't like the company I was working for and was looking for a reason to fire them.?ÿ At first I was using the boss's truck to work on projects, but eventually they got me my own truck and threw some equipment in it.?ÿ I drove out to the site to do some work and when I got out there I realized I was missing a certain tool, and I tried to make the best substitution that I could in the heat of the moment.

A supervisor for the GC noticed, stopped me in my tracks, and told me to leave the site.?ÿ He was about as nice about it as one could be given the circumstances, but I think he realized I was new to the company and didn't have anything to do with the previous feuding.?ÿ He called my supervisor shortly after and fired the company.

I ended up leaving that company a few months later because it was a long commute.?ÿ Ironically, the company that I switched to was the company the GC hired to replace that one I was working for when I got kicked off the site.?ÿ And... as luck would have it I got assigned that project again since I had been out there far more times than anyone else at my new company.

I ended up commuting down there everyday again but at least I was getting paid for it this time.?ÿ The GC apparently didn't recognize me or didn't care and I worked out there almost every day for a solid year before the project finally wrapped up.

Many years ago, working on Air Force base, we were pouring 1000'+/- long concrete runs. I would mark contraction joints and stay all night and cut them when saw could get on wet concrete. it was about 2-3 am and we were next to active taxiway and parking apron, saw some blue lights and it was the MP's with M-16's pointing at me, telling me to come to them (they were behind redline rope, limits that we were not to cross) i was on the opposite side of the pour and they wanted me to walk straight toward them, but concrete was to wet, tried to yell (c-130 prop planes were running) and tell them i could walk x ft to get to hard concrete. well i had to just start walking along forms, whole time them pointing and yelling. finally got it all sorted out, but i ALMOST GOT SHOT (and not with TS)

ps, signs all over the place "USE OF DEADLY FORCE AUTHORIZED"

@ozzy84 donƒ??t worry the Airforce canƒ??t shoot straight. Just kidding. If it were Marines then you need to be worried. Lol. They do not mess around on military air strips. ?ÿWe had a humvee with a set of longhorns on the hood doing airfield surveys on military bases when I was in. The controller hated us. We would be racing each other on the runway. ?ÿHe was pressured to let us have free range because they were over due on certified airstrip and a war was going on. So we took advantage. He did get us back as he had harriers do touch and goes every morning as we were getting our daily plans together. Another reason I canƒ??t hear well. If you ever get the opportunity to run a wild T0 to certify a compass rose. Volunteer. They might not use the T0 anymore but it was fun learning it and doing the certs on those. Just always fun to learn something new.

We had Marines guarding our restricted area at Bermuda, the tarmac being 30 yards from the ocean.?ÿ To keep from being bored out of their minds, they would complete their rounds at a double-time with M-16s at the ready (locked & cocked). One of our new JOs decided he wanted to walk on the beach when he finished the post flight of the C-130 and was immediately put face down in the dirt with the muzzle of the M-16 pressed into the base of his neck.?ÿ The USMC doesn't take their jobs lightly.?ÿ You have got to love those that take the smallest link in the national security chain as seriously as guarding a nuclear facility, regardless of the branch of service in which they serve!

To those that have served or is currently serving, thank you for standing the watch! A safe and happy Veteran's Day to you all!