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Happy Presidents That Were Also Surveyors Day!

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Wendell
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http://nationalmuseumofsurveying.blogspot.com/2011/02/happy-presidents-day.html?spref=fb

Thanks to Dan Rittel, from whom I stole this link he posted on Facebook. 🙂

 
Posted : February 21, 2011 4:07 pm
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So, according to that link, Theodore Roosevelt WAS a surveyor, so now, is Rushmore 4 surveyors and nobody else? :-/

-JD-

 
Posted : February 21, 2011 4:21 pm
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> So, according to that link, Theodore Roosevelt WAS a surveyor, so now, is Rushmore 4 surveyors and nobody else? :-/
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> -JD-

I was just wondering the same thing...:-|

 
Posted : February 21, 2011 4:23 pm
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That's what it looks like!

George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Theodore Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln!

Rushmore

 
Posted : February 21, 2011 4:40 pm
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Wow, good point!

I vote we call it Four Awesome Dudes.

 
Posted : February 21, 2011 4:41 pm
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How many adult males do you meet that haven't done some surveying? Seems like most men I meet have done a little bit.

 
Posted : February 21, 2011 4:53 pm
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Then there is the other side of the mountain ....

 
Posted : February 21, 2011 5:31 pm
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To be honest - as Abe Lincoln - I saw the link posted by Carl Correll before I posted it.

I was President of the Society of Land Surveyors of Iowa during the 2007-2008 year.

I was also President of the Union Drive Residence Hall Association at Iowa State University during the 1993-1994 school year. Lived in North Helser before they tore it down.

Honest Abe ...
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Posted : February 21, 2011 5:43 pm
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Oh My...

What a bunch of butts!!! Literally!! ROFL!!! 😀 😛 :clap:

 
Posted : February 22, 2011 12:13 am
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Remember what Abe said.....

In 1850 the Surveyor General for Illinois and Missouri published his "Manual of Instructions to U.S. Deputy Surveyors", with an appendix for the Use of County Surveyors. This was immediately recognized, without any question, as being conclusive authority and generally adopted by the better class of surveyors in the state, that was until Judge William Burt of Michigan published his "key to the Solar Compass and Surveyor's Companion". This opened up the whole subject of the proper survey and subdivision of the sections. This led to much discussion; both oral and written, finally resulting in the call for a convention on January 7, 1857. No conclusions were reached regarding subdivision of sections, so another convention was called for on January 5, 1859 in Springfield. After a very long and warm discussion (yeah right), it was finally proposed and agreed to submit the question of the proper subdivision of a section to an able lawyer for his decision. In the selection of the attorney, the convention chose Mr. Abraham Lincoln, a practical surveyor as well as a recognized leading member of the Bar, on the principle that a good lawyer could better interpret and apply the law to a subject with which he was thoroughly conversant. Mr. Lincoln replied with the following written opinion:

"The 11th Section of the Act of Congress, approved Feb. 11, 1805, prescribing rules for the subdivision of sections of land within the United States system of surveys, standing unrepealed in my opinion, is binding on the respective purchasers of different parts of the same section, and furnishes the true rule for surveyors in establishing lines between them. That law, being in force at the time each became a purchaser, becomes a condition of the purchase.

"And by that law, I think the true rule for dividing into quarters, and interior section, or section which is not fractional, is to run straight lines through the sections from the opposite quarter section corners, fixing the point where such straight lines cross, or intersect each other, as the middle, or center of the section.

"Nearly, perhaps quite, all the original surveys are to some extent erroneous, and in some of the sections, quite so. In each of the latter, it is obvious that a more equitable mode of division than the above might be adopted; but as error is infinitely various, perhaps no better single rule can be prescribed.

"At all events, I think the above has been prescribed by the competent authority".

Who says that "straight lines" should be implied to be "lines of constant bearing", not Abe.

 
Posted : February 22, 2011 7:41 am
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Straight lines

Well then, I would like to see an example of a section subdivision where the east-west centerline has multiple bearings, thus being an instrument straight line?

Or don't we all believe that a east-west line of constant bearing is a curved line?

Do those curved east-west latitude lines on a globe mean nothing?

Keith

 
Posted : February 22, 2011 9:46 am
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Straight lines

> Do those curved east-west latitude lines on a globe mean nothing?

Not the one called Equator 😉

You get up around 48 or 49 and you can start to see the arc though 😀

Cheers,
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Posted : February 22, 2011 10:01 am
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Straight lines

Radar, you are right about the equator!

Keith

 
Posted : February 22, 2011 11:06 am
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Straight lines

For 45 degrees-2 inches at the 1/4 corner, and that famous 0.04' at the 1/16.

 
Posted : February 22, 2011 12:23 pm
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Straight lines

You are right Mighty Moe and I read all the time about you guys measuring that close!

My field procedures were the same, whether running east-west section lines or east-west section center lines and I only measured 0.04" when building a piano!

Some of you even reject an existing monument that is about that far from your precise measured record distance.

Keith

 
Posted : February 22, 2011 12:29 pm
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Straight lines

You mean I should'nt beat that 1/4 I find over 2" 😉

 
Posted : February 22, 2011 12:33 pm
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Straight lines

Well, I have read that some on here, beat the monument over to where it is supposed to be! 😉

 
Posted : February 22, 2011 1:04 pm
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Straight lines

> You are right Mighty Moe and I read all the time about you guys measuring that close!
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> My field procedures were the same, whether running east-west section lines or east-west section center lines and I only measured 0.04" when building a piano!
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> Some of you even reject an existing monument that is about that far from your precise measured record distance.
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> Keith

four-hundredths of an inch? You must have some high-end pianos.....

 
Posted : February 22, 2011 2:22 pm
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You are right Adam, only build high end pianos!

 
Posted : February 22, 2011 3:17 pm
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Straight lines

What procedures would Abe use to run a line of constant bearing?

 
Posted : February 24, 2011 6:15 am
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