Andy Nold, post: 402836, member: 7 wrote: For the purposes of a casual discussion on an internet message board, I believe you understand my intent.
An old quote says "It is not sufficient to write so one can be understood. It is necessary to write so that you cannot be misunderstood."
What's wrong with xx feed EACH side?
Bill93, post: 402854, member: 87 wrote: An old quote says "It is not sufficient to write so one can be understood. It is necessary to write so that you cannot be misunderstood."
What's wrong with xx feed EACH side?
To keep the picky folks happy I regularly use the description "so many feet both sides of the following described centerline.."
Holy Cow, post: 402805, member: 50 wrote: Words are so different from meaningful intent. Having the perfect word to match the intent is quite a challenge. Intelligent people can assign more than one possible meaning to simple terms that are incredibly clear to the author.
"Words are so different from meaningful intent."
Which is why the correct word in a description is incredibly important...
Andy Nold, post: 402836, member: 7 wrote: For the purposes of a casual discussion on an internet message board, I believe you understand my intent.
If not, I will restate my comment in that our easements are typically 30 feet wide with 15 feet on either side of the centerline and the remainder on the opposite side.
Andy Nold, post: 402836, member: 7 wrote: For the purposes of a casual discussion on an internet message board, I believe you understand my intent.
If not, I will restate my comment in that our easements are typically 30 feet wide with 15 feet on either side of the centerline and the remainder on the opposite side.
"...with 15 feet on either side of the centerline..."
EITHER side? Who picks which side?
Don't mean to be overly critical, but the word you are searching for is "each", not either.
I'm sorry, but I will repeat myself as you seem to fail to understand when I said it the first time. I am telling you on a public forum what our easements look like. I'm sorry you bristle at the word "either", but the sentence I wrote is adequate for you to understand what the easement looks like. The word "either" does not appear in my written descriptions. I am partial to the word "each" in that setting. So, the use of the word either is perfectly adequate for a casual internet discussion and sufficient for you to understand what the easement looks like. Don't make me break out the grammar nazi kitten.
Too late.
Grammar macht frei!
My descriptions are from point A to B to C and so forth with the last being the center of the last pole. I get the guying location clarified by the power company associate and draw it on my plat with a bearing and distance from the pole. I generally show a 10' wide strip and 5' beyond where the guy will touch the ground. For construction I stake the poles and guying.
The written easement includes language "and guying as shown."
Andy Nold, post: 402869, member: 7 wrote: ...but the sentence I wrote is adequate for you to understand what the easement looks like...
I had an elderly trust attorney contact me recently and was raising hell about "Commencing" and "Beginning". He apparently thought I needed to swap one for the other. I explained I had been doing this a long time and was pretty sure I was going to leave them the way they were in the description. He got a little surly with a "we'll see about that..".
About an hour later his secretary (nice lady) called an wanted me to know he wished her to call me and "disregard our previous conversation", but she was in the dark about what we discussed. When I told her what it was all about she told me, "He's been transposing Commencing and Beginning for years."
Andy Nold, post: 402869, member: 7 wrote: I'm sorry, but I will repeat myself as you seem to fail to understand when I said it the first time. I am telling you on a public forum what our easements look like. I'm sorry you bristle at the word "either", but the sentence I wrote is adequate for you to understand what the easement looks like. The word "either" does not appear in my written descriptions. I am partial to the word "each" in that setting. So, the use of the word either is perfectly adequate for a casual internet discussion and sufficient for you to understand what the easement looks like. Don't make me break out the grammar nazi kitten.
Too late.
Grammar macht frei!
So, when the perfect word exists, why would you substitute another word that means something far different, in fact, almost the opposite? It's my understanding that the whole reason that humans developed a standardized written language to take care of this issue. If I'm going to the grocery store I wouldn't say I was going to a truck... I am not trying to be picky or argumentative, and I don't see that it matters who your audience is. Even if it is, IMHO we are professionals here and should attempt to communicate professionally. Proper, clear communication is extremely important. I have seen the word "either" improperly used so many times in descriptions it makes my head hurt! I'm with Gurdon Wattles on this one.
The intent was conveyed and you knew exactly what I mean, didn't you? But, its good to know you're pet peeve.
Andy Nold, post: 402925, member: 7 wrote: The intent was conveyed and you knew exactly what I mean, didn't you? But, its good to know you're pet peeve.
It's "your", not "you're."
This is my last post on this thread...
That was intentional. As well as the "its" instead of "it's".
Andy Nold, post: 402869, member: 7 wrote: I'm sorry, but I will repeat myself as you seem to fail to understand when I said it the first time. I am telling you on a public forum what our easements look like. I'm sorry you bristle at the word "either", but the sentence I wrote is adequate for you to understand what the easement looks like. The word "either" does not appear in my written descriptions. I am partial to the word "each" in that setting. So, the use of the word either is perfectly adequate for a casual internet discussion and sufficient for you to understand what the easement looks like. Don't make me break out the grammar nazi kitten.
Too late.
Grammar macht frei!
It that Eether or Eye-ther?
I stopped writing centerline descriptions with offsets a long time ago, like way back in the late 70s.
All I write is a metes and bounds description, even if it takes 500+ calls to make the loop.
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A Harris, post: 402956, member: 81 wrote: I stopped writing centerline descriptions with offsets a long time ago, like way back in the late 70s.
All I write is a metes and bounds description, even if it takes 500+ calls to make the loop.
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That would drive me crazy. What brand of distilled spirits do you drink?
Your eyes must be a helluva lot better than mine...;)
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I use dual 24in monitors to zoom in on the fine print..........
I have written M&B for utils but the quantity of easements and area we are working in makes centerline descriptions a little easier to deal with.
Dave Karoly, post: 402953, member: 94 wrote: It that Eether or Eye-ther?
In my mind it sounds like "eether" but not sure what it sounds like in my Texas drawl.
Jim in AZ, post: 402798, member: 249 wrote:
EITHER side? Who picks which side?
You have uncovered an interesting irregularity of the English language. (Of which there are many, English is a horrendous hodge-lodge of different roots)
While technically, 'either' implies an 'one or the other' relationship, that only is absolutely true if the subject matter is singular.
Imagine the statement " he sat with his daughters on either side of him." Technically speaking, it implies ambiguity, if we apply the accepted 'one or the other' scenario, however the alternative of using 'he sat with his daughters on both sides of him' is a practical impossibility, as both daughters cannot simultaneously exist on both sides.
In our case, of describing centerline and offsets, it is an unusual situation.
If we describe the 'boundary' as being either side, then it is the 'one or the other scenario', but if we describe the 'boundaries' as being either side, then it is as intended, with a described centerline and two offset lines.
When you write the description, call for the anchors. They will becone controlling monuments when set...
