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These are obviously not rational people if they are fighting over an inch. You, and your work will be treated just as irrationally as the underlying issue. These are the kind of calls that I tell people "not interested."

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Posted : May 3, 2012 8:36 am
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I know that all of us on here can measure very good.

My take on "close" issues like this one is that we live with a standard of tolerance as to the position of monuments, or something like within 0.05 ft of actual quoted distance at 100 ft of actual distance.

I would never state that a fence was 1 inch or 0.083ft over the line. Most fence posts are not hardly ever that plumb and it is merely a common fenced boundary.

[sarcasm]Over compensating and too many hours in front of the terminal, please go into the field for enough time to let the sun burn that out of your system.[/sarcasm]

 
Posted : May 3, 2012 8:38 am
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love the post!!:-)

 
Posted : May 3, 2012 8:47 am
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How about your client asks the neighbor for a copy of his survey or "proof" that the encroachment actually exists.

 
Posted : May 3, 2012 8:56 am
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No one starts a fight over an inch of land; the inch of land is just another weapon to use in an existing fight.

 
Posted : May 3, 2012 9:12 am
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Oh, yes. Two guys who didn't like each other went at it. One guy claimed that the concrete foundation under the ground encroached an inch, while the other one counter-claimed that the adjoiner's water faucet was over the line an inch. They were both right and the battle was on in court. Most of us would have said, "Yeah. So?"

Two surveyors, detailed large exhibits, two law firms. I can't imagine how much their egos cost them.

 
Posted : May 3, 2012 9:40 am
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Here in Cali, we have laws that provide that fences be jointly owned and maintained. Most folks don't know or utilize these laws, but they do shut up idiot neighbors who complain about "encroaching" fences.

 
Posted : May 3, 2012 10:07 am
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:good: :good:

 
Posted : May 3, 2012 11:12 am
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Had a situation in Southern California a few years ago that included a complaint against a licensed Land Surveyor that involved an argument over a fence in a rather pricey area. The "winner" of the civil lawsuit made the neighbor excavate all the fence posts and "shave" a half inch off each concrete footing!

Wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't seen the photos.

 
Posted : May 3, 2012 11:43 am
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This is so true.

> No one starts a fight over an inch of land; the inch of land is just another weapon to use in an existing fight.
My first years in surveying, there was a dispute over an inch or so of a common fence between neighbors. Surveyed the heck out of it and on the plat there were cross sections of the fence posts at various intervals.
Two neighbors with 180°lifestyles. On had a nice pool, BBQ and party playgound along the fence and the other had a metal building with his tractors, mowers etc.
Nice old cattle/ catfish pond farm farm that had been cut up into 1 nads 15 acre parcels.
No settlement and the fence was moved.

 
Posted : May 3, 2012 12:20 pm
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> I was curious if you guys have ever heard of neighbors fighting over one inch?

Yes. Los Angeles area. One survey they, neighbors, were at war over geranium plants, with an attorney egging it on.

 
Posted : May 3, 2012 12:22 pm
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"I am going to do a survey on the property tomorrow but assuming the above information is true I'm not sure what to tell advice to give him."

An INCH???

I'd just show the thing as being on line and be done with it.

Have a great weekend!

 
Posted : May 3, 2012 12:39 pm
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Fighting over 1" on fence location - Clearcut

If everyone followed that about party walls etc, we would have less work. If it was not for the small minded greedy people is the LA area, I probably would not have any work.

I say.."let em fight and keep writing me a check.."

 
Posted : May 3, 2012 12:57 pm
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incredible.. wow.

 
Posted : May 3, 2012 1:39 pm
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Fighting over 1" on fence location - Paul

> If everyone followed that about party walls etc, we would have less work. If it was not for the small minded greedy people is the LA area, I probably would not have any work.
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> I say.."let em fight and keep writing me a check.."

funny.

I've got to say I'm blessed in that most of my clients and their neighbors are simply wanting to know where the line is. I don't mind the projects where there is disagreement or an issue of encroachment. But I do much more enjoy where all parties are happy.

 
Posted : May 3, 2012 1:47 pm
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Dontcha just love it, when you are trying to resolve some 20' on survey A, and then another call call comes in, about 1"!

🙂

 
Posted : May 3, 2012 1:59 pm
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:good:

 
Posted : May 3, 2012 2:22 pm
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That is when you hand them a bundle of 1x2 stakes and say, "hammer these in where you want the boundary and I will survey them."

 
Posted : May 3, 2012 4:28 pm
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Yes their Attorney always seems to tell them their case is a "slam-dunk" even though it is nowhere near that clear cut.

 
Posted : May 3, 2012 4:32 pm
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I did a Survey that involved a CMU block wall. The client claimed that the wall was all on her property. It had been hit by a car and she had some of it reconstructed. Then the neighbor painted the side facing him. That set her off.

She claimed she had built it 1' inside her small lot in the early 60s when she got along with her neighbors very well.

It turned out the wall was on her side of the line but nearly touching. She didn't like the results of the survey, of course. It makes sense to me; why would someone on a small lot give up a foot? I think it was an inch, not a foot.

She was just unreasonable.

I learned a lot about clients to NOT take on from that.

 
Posted : May 3, 2012 4:35 pm
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