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shawn-billings
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Good lesson. That's why I never respond arrogantly to correction.


 
Posted : March 4, 2014 11:52 am
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There's just something about the word 'attorney' that can cause an instant visceral negative reaction in some folks. Kind of like someone yelling 'shark!!!' at the beach. While I think sharks are really cool, I prefer not to swim with them. Probably comes from my having a brother who is one. :excruciating:


Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.

 
Posted : March 4, 2014 12:39 pm
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> There's just something about the word 'attorney' that can cause an instant visceral negative reaction in some folks. Kind of like someone yelling 'shark!!!' at the beach. While I think sharks are really cool, I prefer not to swim with them. Probably comes from my having a brother who is one. :excruciating:

[sarcasm]What's that old joke? 99% of all attorneys give the other 1% a bad name?[/sarcasm] 😛


 
Posted : March 4, 2014 1:06 pm
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> I'm not advocating stooping to any level. The question put to you et al is, aside from those attorneys you have a relationship with, would an attorney set up a meeting to discuss your comments about his legal composition?

Your question sounds a bit of a rhetorical question to make your point. It may have an answer, but it is clear when the attorney is asking you a question it is probably on behalf of his client for whom he is acting as an advocate. If he is just picking up a sketch at random and asking you about it, that would be a different ballgame.

How often are you in a position to review an attorney's legal composition? I would guess most the time would be when it involves a survey or survey document since that is your area of expertise. And, indeed, if the attorney was writing a deed or his legal composition was of a nature to involve you, I would expect and hope the attorney would be answering your questions.

Just remember, you are an expert in a particular field, but the attorney is an advocate and needs to ask questions from many different fields that he is not expert.


 
Posted : March 4, 2014 1:56 pm
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I'm confused, is your brother a shark, an attorney, or both?


 
Posted : March 4, 2014 1:57 pm

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B+

Not an "A", because regardless of the bills in the wallet being yours either way, you need to be able to make the estimate, in order to know if you should kiss him while your lifting the wallet.....;-)


 
Posted : March 4, 2014 1:59 pm
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> > I'm not advocating stooping to any level. The question put to you et al is, aside from those attorneys you have a relationship with, would an attorney set up a meeting to discuss your comments about his legal composition?
>
> Your question sounds a bit of a rhetorical question to make your point. It may have an answer, but it is clear when the attorney is asking you a question it is probably on behalf of his client for whom he is acting as an advocate. If he is just picking up a sketch at random and asking you about it, that would be a different ballgame.
>
> How often are you in a position to review an attorney's legal composition? I would guess most the time would be when it involves a survey or survey document since that is your area of expertise. And, indeed, if the attorney was writing a deed or his legal composition was of a nature to involve you, I would expect and hope the attorney would be answering your questions.
>
> Just remember, you are an expert in a particular field, but the attorney is an advocate and needs to ask questions from many different fields that he is not expert.

Tom,

Yes, it was rhetorical in nature to make my point.


 
Posted : March 4, 2014 2:11 pm
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SAY? Did you forget your north arrow?

I just had the thought. Could it just be a sneaky way of pointing that out?


 
Posted : March 4, 2014 2:23 pm
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One time

> On one occasion I had a similar conversation with an attorney. He caught a numerical goof that I had made.
>
> Please note, however, that was the ONLY TIME it ever happened.

That ONE time is why my standard answer to that is that I will Check Again.B-)


 
Posted : March 4, 2014 2:28 pm
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> I'm confused, is your brother a shark, an attorney, or both?

Yep. He's a genuine psychopath. Apparently it's a personality trait that makes for a very successful attorney, but not much else.


Just because I'm paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get me.

 
Posted : March 4, 2014 2:34 pm

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I deal with attorneys from all over the United States. It is COMMON (in my experience) for attorneys to have a Bachelor's Degree in Engineering, usually Civil Engineering.

Many are not as ignorant as you might think ...

Be careful of what you assume.


 
Posted : March 4, 2014 6:34 pm
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> What do you guys think of the below email?
>
> I take it as the attorney used a protractor and thinks my lines are 1 degree off/
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> "Subject: survey
>
> My associate reviewed the survey and questioned whether, when you consider the survey border as a square frame of reference, the straight lines are off +1 degree.

The simplest answer is to give them the actual bearings of the sheet borders and suggest that the North arrow shows this to be true. If the attorney is just trying to rack up some time, this will give them the means to do it without bothering you further. If they aren't, the next question will be even more delightfully idiotic: "You have given the bearing in degrees, feet, and inches, but my protractor only measures in degrees ...."


 
Posted : March 4, 2014 7:30 pm
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> "You have given the bearing in degrees, feet, and inches, but my protractor only measures in degrees ...."

Slap him silly when he comes back with that question, and tell him that this question is over the top. Explain that he only measures the degrees with the protractor, and he needs an "architect's scale" to measure the feet and inches. 😉


 
Posted : March 5, 2014 3:57 pm
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