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I imagine some on the board would be better than I at responding to this article.
eHow article

It sounds so easy...


 
Posted : August 24, 2011 9:40 pm
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I'd trade all the pertinent responses in the world for a ring side seat with a lawn chair, a couple of cold beverages, and hopefully enough time to stick around for the "Find An Underground Electrical Line" portion of the "How To.." tutorials.


 
Posted : August 24, 2011 9:52 pm
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I know where this thread will probably go, but I don't understand why surveyors get upset at the idea that a land owner might want to look for the monuments we set to mark his/her land. Seems like it's well within his rights to do so. And generally, with the exeception of this statement ....

Find the benchmark for your neighborhood if you do not have an indication where one of the corners is. A benchmark is a stone marker that is used as a point of reference for locating the first point on a deed description. The corner is noted as beginning a particular distance and direction from the benchmark.

.... that not bad advice for a land owner who wants to find his monuments.


 
Posted : August 24, 2011 9:55 pm
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I like the "Ask a lawyer online" link conveniently located after Step #9...


 
Posted : August 24, 2011 10:07 pm
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".... that not bad advice for a land owner who wants to find his monuments."

So just bring an extra lawn chair ?


 
Posted : August 24, 2011 10:07 pm

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I'd be happy to sit around and see how it goes but the one I do not want to watch is "How to Embalm a Corpse".


 
Posted : August 24, 2011 10:08 pm
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Never mind.


 
Posted : August 24, 2011 10:28 pm
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I was OK with it up to the "Wind the string around the existing stake or insert a new one." part

Bruce


 
Posted : August 25, 2011 3:56 am
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> but I don't understand why surveyors get upset at the idea that a land owner might want to look for the monuments we set to mark his/her land. .
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> Find the benchmark for your neighborhood if you do not have an indication where one of the corners is. A benchmark is a stone marker that is used as a point of reference for locating the first point on a deed description. The corner is noted as beginning a particular distance and direction from the benchmark.

Yeah, some of the guys here think it's illegal to lay out your own garden.

But for the record, (in my area) there are hardly any subdivisions where they use a stone bound for the POB.


 
Posted : August 25, 2011 5:29 am
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I was going to agree with some of the statements until it dawned on me that this is a "SURVEY" of the lot. How in the world would a property owner know that the iron he found was the actual property corner?


 
Posted : August 25, 2011 5:54 am

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>How in the world would a property owner know that the iron he found was the actual property corner?
Surveysc has hit the top of the proverbial monument. The problem isn't, however, in the landowner's need for recovery. The real problem is in the product of the land surveyor. The monument that has been placed should be easily recovered, easily recognized and reliable. We've been paid good money to place that monument in the ground for one purpose; for landowners to rely upon. We need to make certain as possible that the monument they recover is the one intended for their use.

Surveyors used to take pride in the monuments they set. Most survey monuments in this day and age cost around $2 with half of them looking like nothing more than some goat or garden stake. Landowners spend $2000 for the surveyor to place $8 worth of indistinguishable iron in the ground. Monument construction shouldn't be sacrificed just because cheap monuments save money and rebar are easier to set.

JBS


 
Posted : August 25, 2011 8:08 am
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AMEN JB,

It has been mentioned a lot about the 2 bit monuments!

Keith


 
Posted : August 25, 2011 8:30 am
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I went around and found my property corners on 100 acres by pacing and compass. All the monuments fit the physical description of a 1980's BLM survey (brass caps with date of survey).

Here is one that will get the discussion going.....I verified the monuments fit the description +- using GIS. That's good enough for now.

If I'm not building improvements near the boundaries, and I do not have neighbors are building improvements near the boundary, nothing has to change (even if it's wrong).

JRL...not a licensed surveyor


 
Posted : August 25, 2011 9:25 am
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Are you suggesting that every property corner should be marked with a concrete monument with disk?

Several years ago a mis-guided city passed an ordinance that all subdivision corners be marked with a 6” X 6” X 2’ concrete monument with aluminum disk. Now picture the dual fences at adjoining residential subdivision with 6-inches of non-maintained landscape between them. Not a pretty sight!

The law of unintended consequences.


 
Posted : August 25, 2011 9:32 am
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Personally, I don't see a problem using REBAR. It is durable, easily detectable with a locator and reasonable stable if pounded in deep enough.

It would be impractical to monument large lots with stone or concrete monuments. Many rural subdivisions have dozens of monuments to set. Would have to charge a pretty penny to lug monuments thousands of feet up the mountain. Also, many of our subdivision regs require monuments on all the PC's and PT's along the road and monuments on each angle point of hammerheads.


 
Posted : August 25, 2011 9:41 am

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Perry

Personally, I don't see a problem using REBAR. It is durable, easily detectable with a locator and reasonable stable if pounded in deep enough.

If the reason is for only future surveyors to find the corners, then this concept is good, but if the concept is for the landowners to have an identifiable monument to their boundary, which they paid for, the the concept is lacking??


 
Posted : August 25, 2011 10:01 am
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Perry

With that concept in mind, I envision Saturday mornings where all of the neighbors come chit-chatting at their monuments and taking turns weed whacking around them. I would think some would want to paint them to match the décor of their house. I would suggest that 99.99 percent of home owners don’t know they have rusty iron that marks the location of their property and they are happy in their ignorance.


 
Posted : August 25, 2011 10:13 am
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Perry

Around here, i'd say about half the owners know that a REBAR or PIPE is the corner. If you set a monument they would think it's a benchmark or something.


 
Posted : August 25, 2011 10:21 am
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grain of salt

the author of the article IS a realtor;

Laura Bramble
Laura Bramble has been writing professionally in her work for marketing and sales since 1989. She has been a real estate agent and a mortgage loan officer and her work has appeared on SFGate and various other websites. Bramble holds a certification in grant writing from Emory University and studied economics at the University of Pittsburgh.

Read more: How to Check Property Lines Yourself | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/how_6080161_check-property-lines-yourself.html#ixzz1W42hA4fj


 
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