Just use the inside edge of the 25 foot mark on your pocket tape and you’ll be fine.
You can't measure to 2ppm so it will be OK------- KEEP WORKING.
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JOHN NOLTON
But JOHN...
I WANT to retire, I'm tired of WORKING!
Well, to be honest, I'm not really tired of working per se, just tired of working 12+ hours a day, 7 days a week!
Oh yeah...and herding cats, trying to fix Doofus & Goofus' work (spanning 150 years in this area), and dealing with folks who actually worry about 2ppm when everything going on behind the curtain is in METERS anyway (except the stuff in Chains & Links).
I love this job, I just want to go fishing once in a while.
🙂
Since 1866 the US Survey Foot was simply called the foot (with minor exceptions).
Changing the international foot to the "foot" is inviting confusion (mostly little to no confusion but sometimes it will be big confusion). Like others, my vote (which doesn't count at NGS), would be to simply have NGS only provide meters... let the end user determine which foot is appropriate.
While the NSRS may not recognize the US Survey foot, it?ÿ won't cease to exist on the millions of plats, reports, plans, and other documents that have used it. Additionally, in order to maintain harmony with prior measurements, surveyors will, and should, continue to use the US Survey foot unless mandated by law to do something different. We'll continue to work in meters and display our distances in US Survey feet. States shouldn't modify their defined SPCs... just keep chugging away using your current definitions. Using LDPs? Good for you, continue to document them cleanly and include your foot units - everything underlying is meters so no worries.
The Mendenhall Order had it right when he defined the relationship between the foot relative to the meter. It doesn't matter what he chose but he chose: 1200/3937. The important thing is to not mix definitions.
NGS isn't an organization for surveyors, it's for scientists. This change isn't made for surveyors, it's for scientists. Surveyors keep on surveying and don't change units for the sake of blue sky science - it doesn't serve you well and it doesn't serve the public well in survey matters.
Just be sure to let your client who is ordering 200 kilometers of pipe know to reduce the quantity by?ÿ 1.31'
Mo Money coming your way.
Well put JK.
Most of us rely on NGS for OPUS. OPUS provides us Lat Longs and State Plane coords in meters. Who cares if they don’t recognize the US Survey Foot, they don’t need to, at least as far as we are concerned. There is no reason, at least that I am aware of, that a state needs to abandon the unit of measure relied upon for its industry.
There are properties that do straddle the New York New Jersey border. These properties were in existence before the final location of the boundary line was settled by the King in 1769.
Fortunately if you are using State Plane Coordinates, New Jersey and the New York East Zone use the same definitions. So it's like the state line is not even there.
Unfortunately, one can still have issues even with metric (though, I realize your post was sarcastic).
Things I commonly have to sort out for the engineering department:
-NAD27 vs NAD83orig vs NAD83 CSRS
-NAD83 CSRS (Epoch 1997) vs NAD83 CSRS (Epoch 2010)
-CGVD28:pre78 vs CGVD28:78 vs CGVD2013
Proper checks and good field work eliminate the confusion. A passive "verbal spanking" occurs to other firms when we receive work from them that does not employ those elements.
The Haskell Free Library is in Quebec and Vermont. I wonder if they used Meters or US survey foot, when they laid it out?
Looks like more than just the library, too...
I'm glad that I will be retired by 2020, I can't afford NEW equipment.
Did we ever get that sarcasm font?
My sense of humor seems to be lost in?ÿtranslation.
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Property lines often cross state boundaries. Anywhere there has been any uncertainty or controversy over the location of state boundaries you will find properties in two states. Of the top of my head I can think of the TX-NM state line in the El Paso Metro area, NM-CO, OK-TX, NC-SC, and TN-KY. I know there are many more.
The TX-NM line goes through houses and many small subdivision lots.?ÿ
Also, properties in more than one county, and thus potentially more than one state plane zone are even more common.
Then there is Alaska where the state plane zones don't follow any political subdivision lines....
There is a main route labeled State Line Road that runs along the Kansas/Missouri border in metropolitan Kansas City. The layperson would assume the center line of the road is the precise location of the State line. I have been told that the true line wanders back and forth, sometimes quite a bit.
The only issue I saw was the PLS I work with convert coordinates in meters to feet and wonder why he was off control in the field by over a foot.
I did a little bit of work in Kansas City, in my youth, and remember seeing that Road. The center-line was my assumption as well...
Other than; Who pays for the maintenance? I would think more about the thickness of the right-of-Way; would play into it, more.
