I had a contractor ask that light poles be staked with a lath at the center labeled "CL LP#001", a lath with T/Conc. grade labeled "5' off CL LP#001", and a point on line labeled "P.O.L. LP#001".?ÿ The contractor built the light pole bases at the P.O.L stake because that means "Point of Light" .
I recall a contractor who, had pipe coming out of the ground because they thought that since we were at negative elevations that a cut would become a fill.
Most places I worked construction, everyone was union, except the surveyors.
Batter boards were used for most every concrete pour for column bolts, baseplates and such.
Driving 2x4 into the ground required surveyor.
Setting grade on uprights required surveyor.
Nailing cross piece on uprights required carpenter.
Setting alignment on cross piece required surveyor.
Driving nail in cross piece for string required carpenter.
They would not provide a lyft or bucket or any form of safety hook, rope or platform for a surveyor that needed to be off the ground.
Any other member of the workforce could not enter the jobsite until the safety team had all that in place.
Everything was in feet and inches and we did all our measurements with a Lufkin Nubian tenths chain.
It was all very odd situation and it seemed that new rules of procedure were in place for each phase of construction.
I had a contractor ask that light poles be staked with a lath at the center labeled "CL LP#001", a lath with T/Conc. grade labeled "5' off CL LP#001", and a point on line labeled "P.O.L. LP#001".?ÿ The contractor built the light pole bases at the P.O.L stake because that means "Point of Light" .
Years ago, decades actually, we had a contractor ask for C/L stakes and 5' offset for poles.?ÿ Next thing you know, poles are all built 5' feet off.?ÿ Thanks to our land development group the survey department got to pick up the tab.?ÿ The crews then started taking photos of each stake set.?ÿ I left the firm not much long after that.
I have never been required to set the actual batter boards but I have set the offsets marks on the board.
So the stake says C dash zero point eighteen, is that cut zero feet eighteen inches? That was an actual question from a curb crew.
Who puts decimal cuts/fills?
Never saw that ever.?ÿ Measure down to make a mark so you can give them whole feet to cut/fill.
Cut and fill in decimal feet has been the rule rather than the exception in my experience. The point set is more often a mag or hub set flush with the ground.?ÿ
Never seen that.?ÿ I've only done grade stakes, measure down from top, and mark even foot.
Measure down from what??ÿ All the cuts and fills I've done are from a hub and use fractions of feet.
I do an equal sign after a cut or fill to avoid having the contractor think the dash is a minus sign.
And lastly, I've never understood the snarkiness towards contractors who ask for clarification.?ÿ Is it really that hard to take the high road and just answer the question??ÿ I mean good grief..
Measure down from what??ÿ All the cuts and fills I've done are from a hub and use fractions of feet.
I do an equal sign after a cut or fill to avoid having the contractor think the dash is a minus sign.
And lastly, I've never understood the snarkiness towards contractors who ask for clarification.?ÿ Is it really that hard to take the high road and just answer the question??ÿ I mean good grief..
Measure down from the top of the grade stake/lath.?ÿ
If you get cut 2.58' from the top of stake, you measure down 0.58', from the top of stake, make a line, and write, C-2'.
If you get fill 2.58' from the top of stake, you measure down 0.42', from the top of stake, make a line, and write, F-3'
Back when I used to do a lot of site/civil stakeout I loved getting the "this is all messed up" phone call every time we staked a new site.
By the time we drove back to the site the yahoo with the plans had just enough time to "marinate" on the subject and our stakeout was miraculously just fine...so they'd try to save face by asking for something they didn't need yet.?ÿ ??ÿ
What abbreviations do you put on construction stakes?
Today I got a call from a site superintendent asking me what "5' o/s LP" stands for and why there are two of the stakes pointed toward each other at a rough 90 degree angle. He also asked why I did not put a stake at the center point.... During the same conversation he asked me why two curb stakes 4 feet apart have fills 0.5' different. I asked him if the hubs were at the same elevation and he said no......
I spent an hour of my office time to determine that he just does not know how to read a stake or the plan set.
Am i the only one that has this issue? Have you seen a rise in the don't think before they call and ask department?
Keep in mind this super was the one that called me and asked for the curb and the light poles to be laid out......?ÿ?ÿ
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Neil
in California
Literally happens all the time and the majority of the phone calls come from "seasoned" individuals that remind you how long they have been doing this "type of work".
T. Nelson - SAM
Sounds like NY!
C# or F#,?ÿalways from the hub if @ all & always in decimal on front of lath, pt# on the back.?ÿI try to set 1 BM close to staking & let them have @ it with the roto-level and lately most prefer to do their own elevations. As-set plot with PT#/sta/off/intersect table is done same day or 1st thing in the am and sent to the super?ÿso he can walk it, confirm pt#'s with plans before things get run over.
Setting ?ÿgrade on a lath seems risky business as they're usually pulled to run strings, used as tool belt hangers or kicked/run over.
My favorite was some staking for floor drain piping. The contractor didn't like decimal feet so I put the cuts in inches. After each cut I added 'W.B.'.
When he asked what that stood for I told him 'Wood Butcher'. I then gave him a tape marked in inches and decimal feet...?ÿ
My favorite was some staking for floor drain piping. The contractor didn't like decimal feet so I put the cuts in inches. After each cut I added 'W.B.'.
When he asked what that stood for I told him 'Wood Butcher'. I then gave him a tape marked in inches and decimal feet...?ÿ