Quite frankly ,as a landowner I would be more than willing to help provide access if it meant avoiding the liability of someone trying to scale an 8' tall fence on my property. Did I miss the part about already trying to contact the landowner?
imaudigger, post: 440990, member: 7286 wrote: Quite frankly ,as a landowner I would be more than willing to help provide access if it meant avoiding the liability of someone trying to scale an 8' tall fence on my property. Did I miss the part about already trying to contact the landowner?
Kent don't need to talk to no stinkin' property owners. He's actually stated trying to talk to those who's thoughts aren't as lofty as his bores him.
The sad part is when he falls on his ass and cracks an elbow he'll never say a word to us about it.
well, kent, whatever you do... make sure and take heed:
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Kent,
All you need to do is drive around the property till you spot a truck with an Oklahoma license plate, just follow the truck. Okies are always running out of gas they think the F stands for fill up and the E means enough gas. When they run out of gas often to give them a ride to the gas station. No need to fear they are used to running out of gas and will have an empty gas with them. No clue while they never fill the can up went they fill their truck up, who knows Okie logical I guess. Drive them by where you want cross the fence, and just casually mention they have some really pretty looking sheep on this tract of land.
Go back in the morning you will find the fence with a gap in it.
imaudigger, post: 440990, member: 7286 wrote: Quite frankly ,as a landowner I would be more than willing to help provide access if it meant avoiding the liability of someone trying to scale an 8' tall fence on my property. Did I miss the part about already trying to contact the landowner?
Yes, I think you missed it. My judgment is that the adjacent landowner would be more difficult to deal with than just climbing the fence to do the necessary. It happens.
Kent McMillan, post: 441109, member: 3 wrote: Yes, I think you missed it. My judgment is that the adjacent landowner would be more difficult to deal with than just climbing the fence to do the necessary. It happens.
I think it wise to avoid unnecessary contact with mere mortals given the fact you have the innate ability to piss off a hungry elephant with a handful of warm salted peanuts. 😉
paden cash, post: 441114, member: 20 wrote: I think it wise to avoid unnecessary contact with mere mortals given the fact you have the innate ability to piss off a hungry elephant with a handful of warm salted peanuts.
Well, I'm sure that you yourself would NEVER even think about stepping over some fence to get a tie to an original land grant corner 20 ft. on the other side of it, but I'm willing to bet that the reasons revolve around:
- the fact that in Oklahoma there would be PK Nails in the county road to calculate the corner from (or at least RR Spikes in Power Poles to figure out where the PK Nails in the county road had been) and
- you'd actually have to CLIMB an 8 ft. tall fence instead of stepping over it.
Kent you remind me so much of an old motorcycle buddy of mine.
He rode an old Ducati single cylinder and was totally enamored with its Italian engineering. He was always spouting "superior design" and trying to trash everyone else's scooters because of their design shortcomings. He dwelt a great deal on the subject of "complexity" as you do.
I remember some of those old Dukes had a gear driven overhead valve system. On the side of the engine what appeared to be a push-rod galley (or tube) as was so common on a lot of motorcycles actually housed a drive-shaft that drove the overhead valve timing with gears instead of the bumps on a cam.
Anyway, his bike' s 'complexity' differentiated him from the rest of us thumper owners with his implied "superiority". And when that hunk of junk broke (often) he would find something totally unrelated on which to blame the problem. I remember once he screwed with the centrifugal advance on the points and then blamed a fouled sparking plug on the poor quality gasoline sold here in the US that was inferior to the European petrol available en Italia.
We tried reminding him several times that FIAT was actually an abbreviated acronym for "Fix It Again Tony"....;)
paden cash, post: 441122, member: 20 wrote: Kent you remind me so much of an old motorcycle buddy of mine.
Okay, is this one of those Kooperesque excursions where the main question is too vexing to actually deal with except by irrelevant anecdotes? I'm pretty sure you aren't a geologist, so I'm unclear as to what your excuse might be for avoiding the obvious (aside from a driver's license issued above the Red River).
Get a bucket truck. I saw one for sale on the side of the road the other day.
There is no way I'm climbing an 8' fence.
Kent McMillan, post: 441125, member: 3 wrote: irrelevant anecdotes
Kent McMillan, post: 441109, member: 3 wrote: Yes, I think you missed it. My judgment is that the adjacent landowner would be more difficult to deal with than just climbing the fence to do the necessary. It happens.
Just saying - I'd be pissed off if someone snuck into my property by cutting my fence, jacking the fence posts out, digging holes under the fence, cutting holes in it, stretching the fence up with a jack, ect. ect. just to save the effort of mailing a letter, calling a phone number, knocking on a door, scheduling your work around access. Have some respect for personal property! They spent more than an hour building that fence the way they wanted it.
I can't say what I would do if I came around the corner and caught someone doing this to my fence. I guess my excuse afterwards would be
"sorry - it happens" 😀
Have you looked into Jet Packs?
Kent McMillan, post: 441125, member: 3 wrote: Okay, is this one of those Kooperesque excursions where the main question is too vexing to actually deal with except by irrelevant anecdotes?...
Not at all. I was j
Dave Karoly, post: 441269, member: 94 wrote: Have you looked into Jet Packs?
They don't make a helmet that would fit Kent....
If Kent used a Texas-made jet pack it would be so powerful it might launch him into orbit. Maybe if we all chipped in...
8 feet eh? Trying to keep something out or something in? Can you climb out faster than you can climb in? Any gates?
LRDay, post: 441280, member: 571 wrote: 8 feet eh? Trying to keep something out or something in? Can you climb out faster than you can climb in? Any gates?
"....show the bull your surveyor's stamp!" 😉
24" rebar placed at a corner such that they make the hypotenuse of a 45-90-45 triangle with the fence post at the 90 make good rungs for climbing.
Works better from the interior side but can serve either.
[SARCASM]Well, this thread now has 99 posts and shows that we need a new category called, Theatre of the Absurd.[/SARCASM]
I mean, geezo, wheezo. No wonder Kent firmly believes that Texas metes and bounds surveys are so complex. This problem of how to get on the other side of a fence has him completely flummoxed. Not to mention that I was completely content to ignore this thread until I saw that Kent has a sad that I haven't commented yet.
On a serious note. Whatever you decide to do Kent, be safe. Not to sound overly sentimental or maudlin, but it is not worth the chance of getting hung up in a fence while you are working alone so you can get a tie to an original land grant corner 20 ft. on the other side of the fence.
