We are doing another long term project in Wise County, Texas. We came across this tag on several tracts we were surveying. When your deed calls for referenced or bearing trees, are they usually this easy to find? I kinda like the Wise County surveyors who went to the trouble of doing this 🙂 The tag was "scribed" the general direction and distance to the corner - dont see this in my area of San Antonio.
Wow...that's interesting!
Those sure look like USFS 54-3 tags (mid-70s or later).
Wonder how they found their way to Texas?
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Loyal
I have seen those quite a bit here in Oregon. VERY helpful as they are easy to spot.
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Not in East Texas. We still have to look for the "X" or the remnants of the "X".
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We still cut a lot of witness trees, but much less than we used to.
Many of them out here. I've had the pleasure of setting a few and retracing many. Those nails need to be popped out a bit though to account for tree growth.
I believe there are some USDA owned Grasslands in Texas but they are definatly 54-3 signs.
Detz you are correct- we were adjacent to State Grasslands-
By the way, the corner I found as a result of the high visibilty of the witness tree was found to be out of its "true" calculated position by 0.04' on this 800 acre tract, so I dug up the tagged 1" x 36" pipe and put it where it should be.;-)
I have found similar signs on reference trees with none of the information filled out to aid in putting its location on any map.
Bearing trees are becoming rare in this area as most land owners consider every tree as money in the bank and more appealing than being witness to the location of their corner monument.
18mos ago I bought a chord of split green red oak for extra late winter heat and it contained purple posting painted hacked line tree and witness X marked tree showing at most a few years of healing.
The tree was witness to an adjoining land owners survey and located on this wood cutters land.
Timber Cruisers used to put nice tags at Section and Aliquot parts crossings of roads. Needed to pay close attention to the Approximate statement.
jud
"I have found similar signs on reference trees with none of the information filled out to aid in putting its location on any map."
The FS no longer marks the signs (typically) too many mistakes were being made on the tags, and I believe there was reasoning that if you are locating the corner etc they want to know about it.
Even a "Caveman" could find one of those Bearing Trees.
Not so lucky around here.
Good Pics!!
Randy
I believe if you survey adjacent the national forests, here in Texas, you can find those coated pipes with brass tablets. I've seen one so far in a survey abutting a national forest.
That looks like tags I have seen BLM use.
We set a lot of Forestry Suppliers (24996) Bearing Tree Posters. We usually blaze the tree, paint the blaze red then nail the poster in two corners. We leave the nails sticking out an inch or so to allow for growth. The yellow poster really stands out against the red background like 1977.
You won't get away with NOT filling out the tags and hanging the LSM signs on all required bearing trees in the Montana or Idaho Forests. The Forest Service won't approve your corner perpetuation without everything filled out correctly. No approval and no payment.
Kurt
They are common along the Davy Crockett National Forest boundary here in Houston County, Texas. I assume the other Nation Forest use them also.
James
I appreciate all the responses guys - thanks!