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(@rlshound)
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Hello,

I'm cleaning out our data collectors, amazing how things have gotten to this point but....just wondering how other people are storing jobs safely that are not being used? We have TBC.... Any ideas, advice would be appreciated, Thanks

 
Posted : August 11, 2015 10:27 am
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New data file each day in the dc. Download copies of .job and .raw files daily to network. Back up network.

 
Posted : August 11, 2015 10:42 am
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Norman Oklahoma, post: 331349, member: 9981 wrote: New data file each day in the dc. Download copies of .job and .raw files daily to network. Back up network.

Thanks

 
Posted : August 11, 2015 11:48 am
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Its kind of a random thing for me, but I just back up all the jobs in the data collector a few times a year. I don't erase the old backups but save them. So far I've never needed a backup.

 
Posted : August 11, 2015 12:28 pm
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Ours stay on TCC for quite a while and eventually get archived to the servers in a folder structure that is collector#mmddyy where the date is the date of the backup. If you maintain the firmware warranties on your Trimble Access collectors you should set up a TCC account, it's free if your warranties are kept current.

TBC also keeps the job in a project folder, so if you archive your TBC projects you'll have a redundant backup there as well.

 
Posted : August 11, 2015 12:35 pm
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Cleaned off and archived to the server at the end of every quarter.
Naming convention is:
Data Backup

Individual job files are created, and placed into the job folder, daily (which has redundancies) so we end up with 2 copies on the server eventually... The one in the Job Folder Downloads (which is also archived as part of the 'Job Complete' process) and the 'raw' information from the machine every quarter.

 
Posted : August 11, 2015 4:09 pm
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I'm a small, solo shop with two data collectors. I will download jobs daily into my project folder under a survey dataxx20xx folder.

I will then back up the entire data collector job folder into a master backup folder in Dropbox under a Survey Data Backup Folder about once a month. Under that folder I have two folders, one for the 500X Ranger, and one for the 300X Ranger. I create a folder for the date I download the data.

Being a small shop, it is pretty simple. The jobs remain in their native format, so it is easy to copy them directly back to the data collector if I need to add to the jobs for some reason.

 
Posted : August 11, 2015 4:43 pm
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The raw in most cases is an ASCII file, but, make sure at least one version is ASCII and readable in wordpad. As time goes by the binary formats will get harder and harder to continue to read, especially with a company that actively uses designed obsolescence like Trimble. My 2å¢

 
Posted : August 12, 2015 7:26 am
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Once a month copy all projects to a folder on my desktop and back up on server.

 
Posted : August 12, 2015 3:32 pm
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David Livingstone, post: 331370, member: 431 wrote: Its kind of a random thing for me, but I just back up all the jobs in the data collector a few times a year. I don't erase the old backups but save them. So far I've never needed a backup.

Thanks David....sorry its taken me sometime to get back to you, been straight out

 
Posted : August 25, 2015 5:18 pm
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Lee D, post: 331372, member: 7971 wrote: Ours stay on TCC for quite a while and eventually get archived to the servers in a folder structure that is collector#mmddyy where the date is the date of the backup. If you maintain the firmware warranties on your Trimble Access collectors you should set up a TCC account, it's free if your warranties are kept current.

TBC also keeps the job in a project folder, so if you archive your TBC projects you'll have a redundant backup there as well.

Hello Lee, Hey thanks, I'll look into the TCC account and waiting for the it to set up a place on a drive for us...meantime I'm going to download to TBC, Thanks Again, Paul

 
Posted : August 25, 2015 5:21 pm
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Equivocator, post: 331412, member: 6885 wrote: Cleaned off and archived to the server at the end of every quarter.
Naming convention is:
Data Backup

Individual job files are created, and placed into the job folder, daily (which has redundancies) so we end up with 2 copies on the server eventually... The one in the Job Folder Downloads (which is also archived as part of the 'Job Complete' process) and the 'raw' information from the machine every quarter.

Thanks Equivocator, I appreciate you taking the time, been straight out but like your idea about the gun serial number, alot of times I forget certain aspects that come back and you wish you had done a better job. Thanks Again... Hows surveying in Brisbane, do you any mine work?

 
Posted : August 25, 2015 5:25 pm
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Norm Larson, post: 331493, member: 7899 wrote: The raw in most cases is an ASCII file, but, make sure at least one version is ASCII and readable in wordpad. As time goes by the binary formats will get harder and harder to continue to read, especially with a company that actively uses designed obsolescence like Trimble. My 2å¢

Thats a good idea Norm, not to mention proprietorship....Thanks for getting back to me

 
Posted : August 25, 2015 5:28 pm
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Jimmy Cleveland, post: 331419, member: 91 wrote: I'm a small, solo shop with two data collectors. I will download jobs daily into my project folder under a survey dataxx20xx folder.

I will then back up the entire data collector job folder into a master backup folder in Dropbox under a Survey Data Backup Folder about once a month. Under that folder I have two folders, one for the 500X Ranger, and one for the 300X Ranger. I create a folder for the date I download the data.

Being a small shop, it is pretty simple. The jobs remain in their native format, so it is easy to copy them directly back to the data collector if I need to add to the jobs for some reason.

Hello Jimmy, thanks for taking the time.....That ability to go to and from data collector to office computer easily makes a lot of sense....preserving and not tampering with your information... Thank You, Paul

 
Posted : August 25, 2015 5:31 pm
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Cyril Turner, post: 331606, member: 159 wrote: Once a month copy all projects to a folder on my desktop and back up on server.

Thanks Cyril, the prior surveyor did not have time to maintenance his equipment, I'm trying to catch up now, Thanks for taking the time, Paul

 
Posted : August 25, 2015 5:33 pm
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I can not stress it enough...daily... complete... backup of entire dc job directory, each data collector gets it's own backup folder on the server, inside each dc folder are folders named by the date of the backup, quarterly put all of the dated folders into a folder named DC#-2015_Q2 . This way if a Party Chief or I-man fubars a file or the data collector battery catches fire while charging you never lose more than a day's work. This also completely negates the problem of the party chief failing to download the required points and/or raw data for a particular day's work. Hard drive space is very very very cheap. Lost productivity is not. My crews all report that this method far is easier than trying to export a particular point range and copy it to the appropriate job folder. 1) Open their dc's backup folder, 2) create a folder with named today's date, 3) drag and drop the entire job folder into the new date folder literally takes less than 2 minutes.

 
Posted : August 25, 2015 7:44 pm
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Monthly backups on server space off complete allegro. Every job is already in its specific directory.
Every half year i delete the complete allegro

 
Posted : August 26, 2015 1:35 am
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With Trimble Office Synchronizer automatically to the Server when connected.

 
Posted : August 26, 2015 2:17 am
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Randy Rain, post: 333494, member: 35 wrote: I can not stress it enough...daily... complete... backup of entire dc job directory, each data collector gets it's own backup folder on the server, inside each dc folder are folders named by the date of the backup, quarterly put all of the dated folders into a folder named DC#-2015_Q2 . This way if a Party Chief or I-man fubars a file or the data collector battery catches fire while charging you never lose more than a day's work. This also completely negates the problem of the party chief failing to download the required points and/or raw data for a particular day's work. Hard drive space is very very very cheap. Lost productivity is not. My crews all report that this method far is easier than trying to export a particular point range and copy it to the appropriate job folder. 1) Open their dc's backup folder, 2) create a folder with named today's date, 3) drag and drop the entire job folder into the new date folder literally takes less than 2 minutes.

Hello Randy, Thanks, I started the process which includes backing up all files to a designated drive and creating .vce files in TBC to go to and from easily. The .vce files reside in the back up folder as well. That's the plan for now and will develop more as time goes on. Thanks to all for your advice!

 
Posted : August 26, 2015 1:28 pm
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Darwipli, post: 333503, member: 6080 wrote: With Trimble Office Synchronizer automatically to the Server when connected.

Hello Darwipli,

I've tried unsuccessfully to synchronize.....if you wouldn't mind...can you please include a step by step?

 
Posted : August 26, 2015 4:09 pm
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