I'm working on a small lot that is on the edge of a phase line between two units of the same subivisions. Boths sub phase plats are prepared by the same surveyor.
My lot calls for 105.00' on the south side, but when I look at the record dim. on the lot to the south, (on the other plat) it's only 104.99'. I think the rodman lost 0.01' somewhere. He must have looked around for it and found it laying in the road. On my lot, the half right of way width is shown at 30.00', but on the lot to the south, the same line is labeled 30.01'. The rodman must have been too lazy to pick up the 0.01' and pound it back into the right place.
Now, what the heck do I do? 30.005 for the half R/W width and 104.995 for the lot line? I can see this whole thing ending up in court ... and this a free-bee survey I'm doing for a friend, too ...
got vise grips?
chalk it up to geoid undulation
pull the offending irons and set new ones! 0.005' is nothing to trifle with
Oh, how I hate seeing plats like that. Being correct is a lot like being pregnant. You either are or you aren't.
ROTFLMAO
USE A CENTER PUNCH TO PUNCH A DIMPLE IN THE OFFENDING IRON RODS AND NOTE ON YOUR MAP WHY YOU DID NOT HOLD THE FOUND POSITION OF SAME. EXPLAIN MUCH AS YOU DID ABOVE.
HOWEVER, BE CAREFUL, COZ WHEN YOU COME BACK NEXT YEAR YOU WILL MEASURE THE LINE TO BE OFF 0.04' AND THEN YOU CAN START A REAL PIN CUSHION.
I JUST HATE THOSE FOLD THAT SET THEIR PINS SO CLOSE TO TRUE, THAT YOU CAN'T GET YOURS IN ALONGSIDE.
YEAH, I AM ROTFLMFHO!!!!!!!!!
Don't think he is talking about found monuments, I think he is talking about data he has found on what he is calling a plat. His definition may differ than mine for that term. I was thinking about getting the previous surveyor to file a correction plat or whatever is done in that area. Numbers being played with but they need to be correct.
jud
First Call, Senior Plat, Senior Line Holds
Two plats, on two different dates I hope.
Check the lot closure on each side, you may have justification for one dimension over the other even if the same date.
Simple computer rounding error and if you are not surveying either of the adjacent lots, it just doesn't matter.
Paul in PA
First Call, Senior Plat, Senior Line Holds
> Two plats, on two different dates I hope.
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> Check the lot closure on each side, you may have justification for one dimension over the other even if the same date.
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> Simple computer rounding error and if you are not surveying either of the adjacent lots, it just doesn't matter.
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> Paul in PA
I'm willing to bet that the dimensions were edited rather than re-calced on the first one, and then forgotten to match on the second. Probably a 0.002' difference rounded over the 0.005' mark. (from 30.004' to 30.006'). It happens... it is annoying as HELLL!!! But, it happens.
dude let it go. its not like it is a big deal, like 0.04' would be. pincushion it and move on.
First Call, Senior Plat, Senior Line Holds
That's pretty much my thoughts, as well, the draftsman probably copied some of the linework over from the previous phase, labeled it, and never checked it against the previous plat. It really wasn't a big deal, just one of those slight oversights that I get a chuckle out of.
just round everything to the nearest tenth and everything will be okay.
First Call, Senior Plat, Senior Line Holds
That's a relief. I thought for a while that this was considered a real problem. I get a chuckle out of things like that unless they go out of the office with my name on them.
Classic instance of 'splitting the difference' and moving on, imho.
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you've got to be joking, Paul!!!
"you may have justification for one dimension over the other even if the same date."
you can't be serious, right? although why do I think you might actually think this is sound logic.....
Do The Math Around The Lots...
...and close along the questionable line;
Let's say 149.9948' versus 149.9975'. I would hold 150.00' as true.
A line created by one surveyor cannot have 2 lengths.
If by implication each side of the line was created at a different time, the senior call may hold.
Lastly by doing the the math one may find a scrivener's error, in fact or in judgement (rounding).
I doubt any state has a statute that calls for such precision that an 0.01' error is outside the probability.
Paul in PA
Do The Math Around The Lots...
No, what you have is some idiot running a cad program! end of story. they just didn't look at their labels after they inserted them.. don't make a mountain out of a molehill.
Andy, I Am Obligated To Do The Math Per The Record
It makes little difference why the record is wrong, CAD monkey, dislexic draftsmen or sloppy surveyor.
On recent maps there can sometimes be a gross of errors, mostly because the CAD man used the lines and polylines rather that coordinated points.
I had to deal with one two weeks ago, three incongruous lengths, somewhere or other on the 5 abutting lots plus a blown commencement line from 3 lots down and around the inresection return radius. Topped off with no monuments found (4 should have been within sight of our frontage), but 10 pipes or pins in the right places.
If I had to worry about the why, the job would have been in the toilet.
Paul in PA
if not geoidal undulation...perhaps it was glacial rebound that caused it.
