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I upgraded from windows 2000pro to windows 7pro (64 bit)only to find most of my old programs will not run on the mew machine(s)
I should have known better, but wanted FAST machines, and 64 bit syetems can use more than 4 gigs of ram (I put 8 gigs in three networked machines & they are very fast)I found some info that indicates that windows 7pro is capable of createing an XP mode (Vdisk?) that should run most of my old 32 bit programs
Anyone know anything about how I might get that setup on my new system(s)?


 
Posted : March 5, 2014 8:34 pm
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There are a couple of ways you can do this:

- Get the Microsoft XP emulation, but you do need PRO, not Home Pro. There is a difference

- I bought a Home pro several years ago and I used VIRTUAL BOX from Oracle (it's free) to install an XP CD that I had from an old computer. It has worked fine.

Either way, you end up with a "second" computer and you have to have installations for all peripherals for the XP just like on the Win 7.

As a warning about XP emulation, I asked my geek the other day about what happens when XP support is stopped next month. He says XP emulation will be subject to all vulnerabilities just as if XP was primary.


 
Posted : March 5, 2014 8:45 pm
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Thanks for the reply--My geek swears I have the correct version of windows, but he (so far) has not been able to setup XP Mode for me. I am feeling better to hear from someone who has really got that to work---As for XP support, I only intend to setup two work stations in XP mode, and I guess I'll just have to chance it with those. (get a good antivirus program?) The only other thing I can think of that might work is reformat the drives and install windows 7 32bit, but at this point I'M not sure if that will do it either.


 
Posted : March 5, 2014 9:26 pm
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Don't throw out the XPs, take them offline and all should be fine.

Put the Win7 online for the downloads and network data to and fro.

I installed two wireless cards into the Win7. One for data exchange and the other for access to the internet.

😉


 
Posted : March 5, 2014 9:26 pm
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I haven't used windows 7 for a while but i believe if you right click and go to properties there is a 'run in 32-bit' option for most programs.


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 3:19 am

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I wasted a whole morning on this a year ago. XP Mode creates a virtual disk on the hard drive. You can install older software and create folders and files. But it doesn't recognize USB ports, the CD burner, or the network adapter. So you can't write your files to a thumb drive or CD, or email them to yourself. Exit XP Mode, and you can't access the files on your virtual drive. Pretty pointless. Just sayin'


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 8:06 am
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As I said above, I used Oracle's VIRTUAL BOX. That does let me access i/o ports in XP. Also, while XP does need a disk partition, VB allows me to set up access to files across the partition.


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 8:10 am
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I had no problem loading my acad02 with no virtual software required. Copy the disks to the hard drive then right click on the install exe file and set it to run in xp mode. You can then install with no issue.


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 8:43 am
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Same here, Win 7 64 Bit Pro. No problems at all.

I had to enlist the help of a super nerd to get express tools working (would not unpack and install), but eventually got that working, too.


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 9:40 am
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you may also need to use the "run as administrator" option


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 9:44 am

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Perhaps your geek in residence can create a dual boot system on the PC. This means having two hard drives, or one partitioned hard drive with a different flavor of Windows on each.

Here's one how to, though I haven't looked at it closely enough to verify its accuracy:

http://apcmag.com/how_to_dual_boot_windows_xp_and_windows_7_xp_installed_first.htm/1

Oops, meant to link this one, ignore the first: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/8790/dual-boot-your-pre-installed-windows-7-computer-with-xp/


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 1:58 pm
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I used it to run a 32 bit version of Arcview, its ability to redraw the graphics and polygons, was so slow that it was unusable.

A screen redraw of less than 150 000 polygons would take about 3-5 minutes, the same redraw or regen on xp would take a few seconds.

I read about it and came to the conclusion that xp mode was not for any graphic intensive programs such as cad or GIS, dumped the software and moved on to 64 bit versions.


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 1:59 pm
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Not sure about 2002 autocad, that's really old as far as software goes. We setup a virtual (second cpu) on our 64 bit workstations to load up AutoCAD-LDD. While it worked, I wouldn't recommend it unless you absolutely have too. Everything moved really slow and certain commands just wouldn't work, it was painful. Once my HD died a month ago I did not reinstall the virtual world.


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 2:13 pm
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Thanks to all-------Good info and I will get something running based on these posts


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 7:33 pm