LAND DESKTOP 2009 AND WINDOWS 10

I don't know about LD, but Civil 3D on Win 10 is fine, and Win 10 is pretty slick. You will however get some teething issues. Typically the out-of-the-box Win 10 will need to download and install a lot of updates (generally around 4GB) to get up to date, and there'll be a few "failures" along the way, but they eventually seem to automatically sort themselves out. There is some suggestion that updates may adversely affect Civil 3D activation, but that seems to be self healing as well. Be prepared to have at least one stable computer with internet so that you can search for solutions to the problems.?ÿ

definitely appreciate the heads up about Windows 10. The guys I get my computers from are pretty good though and can probably help us through this. I used to be good at all this computer stuff, not so much anymore so your hints are well taken!

Biggest issue is even the good computer guys really dont know anything about Civil 3D or Land Desktop

Thanks?ÿ?ÿ

I have a a copy of LDD3 on a Windows 10 machine. It runs. Although I haven't really done much with it. Because I use C3d now and I don't want to go back.?ÿ?ÿ

It seems to me that you should bite the bullet and get on with the jump to C3d.?ÿ ?ÿ

Yeah - I will find out soon enough when the new machine comes in with Windows 10 on it!

We work with engineering firms that I know would rather we jump to Civil3D as well. I own the seats, but this time of year is not good to be switching platforms though since we are so busy. Once we get into the fall and things start to slow down we will probably make the switch.

Good to hear that you seem to like it also - seems that after the initial shock most people feel the same way. I saw some pretty funky stuff coming from the engineering group with vertical issues mostly and those are the things that scare you. Luckily they were all caught before construction started.

If it was me, I'd ask the computer company that you are getting your new computers from, to also ensure that the Win 10 is fully updated, and has all the drivers working. We recently got a HP PC for the secretary (not using AutoCAD, etc) that was Win 7 but came with a Win 10 install disk, and so ensued 2 days of virtual sweat getting Win 10 installed, updated, and the PC fully operational. At some point in the Win 10 update it lost its recognition of the ethernet card, and despite 4 hours on the www I couldn't work that one out so she took it back to the shop (1km down the road) and they sorted that out in a flash. I did note that the original install of Win 10, was quite different (backward) in terms of features than the final updated version.

If you are buying new PC's from a shop, make sure they are fully spec'd up to optimise AutoCAD Civil 3D - at the minimum solid state drive (preferably the pcie (or whatever it's called) version), 64-bit, min 8GB RAM, dedicated graphics card. The secretary's PC is not SSD, whereas all our Civil 3D computers are, and you sure can notice how slow HD's are in machine and program startup, compared to SSD. (Although from memory, I think SSD doesn't make Civil 3D any faster, although I think some technical guru told me it would, when the RAM was exceeded, although with 16GB min in our computers, we don't get close to that situation).

The place you should notice speed with a SSD is on boot up, and on start up of programs. You are right that with loads of RAM onboard you won't be accessing the disk much when simply running AutoCAD . All hail 64x.?ÿ?ÿ

Thanks again guys - all good tips

the new machine will have 64GB of RAM and a SSD so I should be good in that department.

Posted by: Norman Oklahoma

?ÿ. All hail 64x.?ÿ?ÿ

Amen to that. Civil 3D pre V2011 and pre 64 bit was a "......" (insert your worst here).

Anyone ever use "Longbow Converter" software to run Land Desktop on a Windows 10 machine?

I have not tried it but they supposedly have programs that will make sure your seat will run in Windows 10.

Thanks?ÿ?ÿ

Posted by: Gregg Gaffney

Anyone ever use "Longbow Converter" software to run Land Desktop on a Windows 10 machine?

I have not tried it but they supposedly have programs that will make sure your seat will run in Windows 10.

Thanks?ÿ?ÿ

Yes , I'm running LDD2006 and LDD2007 on Windows 10. Thanks to the Longbow Converter. It's worth the money and works perfectly on 32 or 64.?ÿ ??ÿ

Thanks - as mentioned above I really have to get us onto Civil 3D but that will probably happen at the end of the summer.

Glad to know that the Longbow stuff works as advertised and its not that expensive.

It will work, I'm running C3D 2016, 2018 and Land desktop 2000 on my Windows 10 machine.?ÿI have an IT guy who set it all up, I will also say that Windows 10 is an improvement, it takes less room and seems to cut out less than 8. Probably some will disagree.

I love 2000 and there are so many old jobs out there that I don't want to get rid of it. I hate 2016; 2018 seems to be an improvement.

good to know as well. The computer dude is coming tomorrow so we I will see what he says.

We have all Windows 7 machines and things have worked well for quite a while now. But eventually we have to make a break so I will be the first victim on 10 and see how it goes.

As Norman asked above "why not make the jump to Civil 3d" which I would love to and we will this year. (said that last year too!!) When we do we may go right to Civil3D 2019 version since that is what the Civil form we do a lot of work with is doing as well.

As you mention, we love Land Desktop 2009 also which is also why we haven't made the switch.?ÿ

Posted by: FL/GA PLS.

Posted by: Gregg Gaffney

Anyone ever use "Longbow Converter" software to run Land Desktop on a Windows 10 machine?

I have not tried it but they supposedly have programs that will make sure your seat will run in Windows 10.

Thanks?ÿ?ÿ

Yes , I'm running LDD2006 and LDD2007 on Windows 10. Thanks to the Longbow Converter. It's worth the money and works perfectly on 32 or 64.?ÿ ??ÿ

I am running Land Desktop 3 on win 10 64 bit without Longbow and no need for a virtual machine.

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Create Directory C:Programs

Do not let the program auto install. You need to right click the CD drive, open, find the setup.exe file and run as administrator.

Change the install directory to c:programs. Use the same "run as administrator" for your the Civil and Survey disks.

Then you need to watch this video to modify the registry so you can see mapped drives in Land Desktop.

Steven - thanks for the help.?ÿ

As you mention I try to always run the program as you said above but those are great tips. Sounds like there is no need for the conversion program for Land Desktop at this point.

That "run as administrator" is often the key to getting programs to run, and quite possibly something that software producers assume that users are doing by default, when in fact that is probably not the case. Case in point, three weeks ago I bought online a US$250 sonar and sidescan image processing software, installed it, program loaded but nothing worked. Searched through the help and the forums, no solution, started to cry. Then thought surely it can't be the "run as administrator" trick, and surely it was.

Very true Richard - by the way got a good laugh out of the "no solution, started to cry"

Feel your pain which is why it was so funny

I'm a little late the thread but I have LDD 2009 loaded on my Windows 10 machines.?ÿ I like to have it around for older projects.?ÿ It works fine with the exception that I constantly have to re-activate it.?ÿ If you have a subscription that is an easy task over the phone.