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Have the monthly subscription prices gone down? They seem to be about 60% of what they were a few months back.

I can imagine the subscription model is expensive for those that need AutoCad all the time, but for me I use Carlson Survey most of the time and only occasionally need full Autocad. The monthly subscription works well in this situation.


 
Posted : October 16, 2016 6:33 am
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Actually the subscription rates have gone up. Look at how long that fee is for. I understand that you no longer "own" the software, but you are now "renting it. At our office we have 6 seats of AutoCAD and our new annual rate was close to 30G's a year.


 
Posted : October 16, 2016 4:28 pm
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My $700 full-price purchase of BricsCAD Pro is looking better all the time.


 
Posted : October 16, 2016 5:15 pm
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cptdent, post: 395475, member: 527 wrote: Actually the subscription rates have gone up. Look at how long that fee is for. I understand that you no longer "own" the software, but you are now "renting it. At our office we have 6 seats of AutoCAD and our new annual rate was close to 30G's a year.

I know how long the fees are for it's just I am pretty sure the monthly was about 300 earlier in the year. Could be a local thing here.

30,000 for 6 seats for only a year is ridiculous. Very difficult to see how anyone could make a profit paying that kind of money a year for Cad


 
Posted : October 17, 2016 1:46 am
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Jim Frame, post: 395481, member: 10 wrote: My $700 full-price purchase of BricsCAD Pro is looking better all the time.

I wish Carlson would work on Bricscad.


 
Posted : October 17, 2016 1:47 am

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I have a copy of 14 if anyone wants to start a collection.


 
Posted : October 17, 2016 5:34 am
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My first Autocad work was on 9. That would still handle nearly all of my simple survey work.


 
Posted : October 17, 2016 6:35 am
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Totalsurv, post: 395533, member: 8202 wrote: $30,000 for 6 seats for only a year is ridiculous.

Autodesk's website has Civil3d rental at $2100/yr for a copy. The $30k figure might be for a 3 year subscription.


 
Posted : October 17, 2016 7:08 am
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I have two seats (subscriptions) of C3D and I keep getting offers from ACAD for 1/2 off rental for 3 years if I trade it in for yearly rentals. Do they think surveyors can't do math or something.


 
Posted : October 17, 2016 8:47 am
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cptdent, post: 395475, member: 527 wrote: Actually the subscription rates have gone up. Look at how long that fee is for. I understand that you no longer "own" the software, but you are now "renting it. At our office we have 6 seats of AutoCAD and our new annual rate was close to 30G's a year.

We have 9 seats and pay around $12K/yr...


 
Posted : October 17, 2016 8:57 am

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Totalsurv, post: 395534, member: 8202 wrote: I wish Carlson would work on Bricscad.

Are we sure that it won't?


 
Posted : October 17, 2016 9:22 am
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Here is an E-mail I got, supposedly from Autodesk...

I saw that you were someone I should be talking with in regards to the Autodesk licenses
Is this still accurate?
If you‰Ûªre like most customers I work with, you‰Ûªve been wondering if you can trade in your old/current perpetual licenses for subscriptions. Well, now you can.
If you‰Ûªre happy with what you‰Ûªve got, great, but if you‰Ûªd like to take advantage of a half off promotion, then we should chat.
When‰Ûªs a good time for a quick call to discuss your options?

What a joke. So we can now "trade in" our old perpetual license and start a yearly rental of software we would no longer own?!


 
Posted : October 17, 2016 3:33 pm
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This is good for a laugh...

"I saw that you were someone I should be talking with in regards to the Autodesk licenses. Is this still accurate?
If you‰Ûªre like most customers I work with, you‰Ûªve been wondering if you can trade in your old/current perpetual licenses for subscriptions. Well, now you can.
If you‰Ûªre happy with what you‰Ûªve got, great, but if you‰Ûªd like to take advantage of a half off promotion, then we should chat.
When‰Ûªs a good time for a quick call to discuss your options?"

Haven't found a good time yet...


 
Posted : October 17, 2016 3:37 pm
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Mark Mayer, post: 395568, member: 424 wrote: Are we sure that it won't?

While Carlson has some lisp that would run in BricsCAD without modification, the vast majority of it (even back in 2004 when I left) was C++/ARX. Those files often won't run in a future version of the same engine without recompiling, let alone another engine. It would take a lot of effort on Carlson's part to port to BricsCAD and given the limited number of seats (at least in the US) it would be hard to justify.

Anybody who has BricsCAD Pro (or higher) and is willing to put in some time in exchange for software, drop me an email.


 
Posted : October 17, 2016 3:47 pm
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Mark Mayer, post: 395568, member: 424 wrote: Are we sure that it won't?

Yes.


 
Posted : October 18, 2016 1:47 am

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twdotson, post: 395633, member: 8059 wrote: given the limited number of seats (at least in the US).

I think if Carlson did work on Bricscad the number of seats would skyrocket (if you mean seats of Bricscad)


 
Posted : October 18, 2016 1:49 am
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Jim Frame, post: 395481, member: 10 wrote: My $700 full-price purchase of BricsCAD Pro is looking better all the time.

Do you use an add-on package for surveying tools or does BricsCAD include a basic COGO set of commands?
Thanks!


 
Posted : October 18, 2016 6:23 am
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FL/GA PLS., post: 395694, member: 379 wrote: Do you use an add-on package for surveying tools or does BricsCAD include a basic COGO set of commands?
Thanks!

There are no built-in surveying tools of which I'm aware -- it's essentially like plain AutoCAD. I use my own homebrew LISP software for COGO and drafting aids, and either TBC or [REDACTED] for terrain modeling. As indicated above, Terry Dotson offers add-in surveying software for BricsCAD.


 
Posted : October 18, 2016 6:58 am
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