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Have built in acad version. Does anyone know of a way to label lines with a different bearing (adding a convergence angle to all lines for example)without changing the coordinates or rotating the job.


 
Posted : December 9, 2013 7:24 am
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I don't think so, since the embedded version doesn't allow creating user coordinate systems. One work around, copy your boundary to another drawing, rotate it as you wish, annotate your new brg/dist, (prefer on a different layer), and from the file menu > clipboard > copy (select the annotation), and then back in the original drawing, from same menu > paste to original coordinates.
note: use the same menu copy/ and paste to original coordinates to get the boundary or lines into the new drawing.


 
Posted : December 9, 2013 7:54 am
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That's something I have been asking Carlson for:

Annotate Rotated. This means that you CAN put a little rotation on all the annotations. EVERY time you use it, it pops up a little warning in the corner, and tells you the theta.

Yes, we really do need this.

Nate


 
Posted : December 9, 2013 8:16 am
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Annotate
Global Reannotate.

There are drawbacks to using this. It just reannotates the existing. So everything has to be done, then use the command.


 
Posted : December 9, 2013 10:47 am
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2 items I want Carlson to do:

Annotate Rotated. This would require that the inverse routine show BOTH bearings.

And, annotate with scale factor. So, that all the work, and line work is in SPC, BUT the annotations are ground.

Can it do either one of these?

Of course, we can have 2 files for every job... one is SPC, and one is ground. But, it could be all in one, if these were added.

thank ye!

N


 
Posted : October 28, 2015 9:39 am

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Can you save the polyline out to a different DWG.

Do your rotation, and re-annotations.

The Xref the CAD files on top of each other.


 
Posted : October 28, 2015 11:13 am
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Nate The Surveyor, post: 342112, member: 291 wrote: And, annotate with scale factor. So, that all the work, and line work is in SPC, BUT the annotations are ground.

This short video shows how to annotate with Grid (and/or) Ground distances:
[MEDIA=youtube]KZh_aOW5Xns[/MEDIA]

This short related video shows how to annotate with Geodetic Distances and Bearings:
[MEDIA=youtube]9988awFxbHs[/MEDIA]

I think it is possible to 'localize' a drawing to effectively rotate it without adding a scale factor by choosing two calibration points and assigning rotated coordinates to the second point. (Check the 2pt rotate only, so you don't introduce a scale factor.) And the point of rotation is (by default) the first point.

This won't do what you want because all of the coordinates will be biffed. But the angles will be corrected.

I certainly agree that it would be great to add a theta to all bearings, and while we are at it, how about allowing a scale factor to use in addition to any other projection based scale factor.

M


 
Posted : October 28, 2015 11:21 am
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If you can get that request to Dave Carlson, it would more than likely be included in the next release.
That is one of the biggest plus's about Carlson. They listen to and implement truly good ideas.
This is one that needs to be implemented.

I'm not sure how much time is being dedicated to the Survey module vs Civil/mining/....


 
Posted : October 28, 2015 2:50 pm
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imaudigger, post: 342150, member: 7286 wrote: If you can get that request to Dave Carlson, it would more than likely be included in the next release.
That is one of the biggest plus's about Carlson. They listen to and implement truly good ideas.
This is one that needs to be implemented.

For the benefit of the thread participants, I've dispatched to Dave the link to this thread so that he and his team are aware of these requests.


 
Posted : October 28, 2015 3:24 pm
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rambleon, post: 235558 wrote: Have built in acad version. Does anyone know of a way to label lines with a different bearing (adding a convergence angle to all lines for example)without changing the coordinates or rotating the job.

If Carlson Survey were to be enhanced to have an option field in Annotate Defaults that would permit you to add some amount of angular value (e.g. default value = 0) to the annotated direction, would this suffice?


 
Posted : November 11, 2015 2:32 pm

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Speaking for myself, I can't see what that wouldn't work, perhaps with the ability to put it in parenthesis or something.


 
Posted : November 11, 2015 3:09 pm
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I'm glad to see this topic being discussed. I called Carlson tech support not long ago asking if this could be done. I got the impression that nobody had ever asked for this function, but it seems common enough to me.

I use grid coordinates in the data collector (SPC or LDP). I setup the drawing with grid coordinates so I can import and export to/from Google Earth. But I often want my plat and legal description rotated to match the record bearings of the GLO plat and/or the other record surveys that adjoin.

I usually use two drawings and two coordinate files, one at grid and the other rotated to record. This adds work and is prone to errors, so if this could be done in one drawing, that would be muy bueno.

In addition to annotating bearings with a given added angle, I would like it to add the angle for inverse, map check, and legal description writer commands, all with real grid coordinates.


 
Posted : November 12, 2015 9:48 am
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One work around instead of two drawings is to leave model space on SPC and rotate the viewport UCS/UCSFOLLOWS to the desired bearing of the lines. the viewport scale would be 1' = 1' instead of 1'=50'. This gives one drawing and coordinate file to keep track of and you can compute stakeout points on SPC.


 
Posted : November 17, 2015 11:27 pm