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(@aksurveyor)
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Greetings all,
Quick background: I am an owning partner in a new surveying firm (at last!). Up until now I have been half in the field as project surveyor/party chief, the other half in the office as project manager/drafter.
I have used LDD since the beginning. Our firm has elected to purchase Carlson 2013 with embedded AutoCAD. I have always had a CAD expert in the office to ask questions. Now, I am the expert (somewhat scary).
So far I’m liking Carlson. I have several questions/issues, but I will start with one. I have a book, A Practical Guide to Carlson Survey 2013, Level 1 by Rick Ellis. It there it talks about adding “quick keys” to speed up command line typing. I do %90 of my drafting from command line typing (it’s so much faster). So of course I would like to edit the quick key commands to mimic the Autodesk LDD commands that I am used to.
The problem, the quick key dialog box that is supposed to be under the settings pull-down menu, as per book mentioned above, is nowhere to be found. Where can I customize my quick keys if not from an option on the settings pull-down menu?

 
Posted : March 20, 2013 4:27 pm
(@peter-hughes-davies)
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try "quickkey" at the command line . . works in Carlson Survey 2010.
Peter

 
Posted : March 20, 2013 4:43 pm
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Thanks for the quick response Peter.
That command comes up with “Unknown command”

 
Posted : March 20, 2013 4:48 pm
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A few I know:

C= circle
Co= copy
i= inverse
m= move
r= redraw

 
Posted : March 20, 2013 4:53 pm
(@peter-hughes-davies)
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The AutoCAD shortcut menu can be accessed with "aliasedit" at the command line . . see if that works.

 
Posted : March 20, 2013 4:58 pm
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Imbedded Autocad Is Not Autocad

It is Autocad Lite and Autodesk purposely disables many commands to encourage you to pay for full Autocad.

Having said that, go to Help/Command Line/Quick Keys to see a list of what is available.

Also if you pick from the pulldown, it will tell you if a Quick Key is available, sometimes in the pulldown itself and other times just look at what appears on your Command Line.

Paul in PA

 
Posted : March 20, 2013 5:16 pm
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It would appear that you are using Carlson Survey with embedded AutoCAD. They left out the Quick Keys in the AutoCAD kernal.
There is a workaround and easy fix. Go to the Discussion Groups on the Carlson Web site and search for quick keys.
OR email me your email address and I will send you the fix. One, two, three.....you're back to LDD!! 😀
I also can show you how to get back the Arc command "Draw by Start, End, Direction" too.

 
Posted : March 20, 2013 5:24 pm
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Imbedded Autocad Is Not Autocad

It is stripped down to almost AutoCad Light, but it is not AutoCad Light. I use several AutoCad commands from the keyboard that work and they are not available in AutoCad Light.

 
Posted : March 20, 2013 5:37 pm
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The "Quick Keys" command is not part of Carlson Survey with Embedded AutoCAD as it could potentially permit AutoCAD customization beyond that allowed by the Autodesk Developer Network (ADN) OEM requirements.

I briefly described an alternative in the [msg=165664]Need acad.pgp file[/msg] thread and more verbose discussions can be found on the Carlson User Forum(s).

 
Posted : March 20, 2013 8:38 pm
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This is one that I've had for a while. Just copy and paste it into notepad, and save it as:

surv.pgp.

Then put it in:

C:Program FilesCarlson Survey 2013Support

(Some of them won't work - probably superseded by other ACAD commands).

3A, *3DARRAY
3DO, *3DORBIT
3F, *3DFACE
3P, *3DPOLY
A, *ARC
ADC, *ADCENTER
AA, *AREA
AL, *ALIGN
AP, *APPLOAD
AR, *ARRAY
ATT, *ATTDEF
-ATT, *-ATTDEF
ATE, *ATTEDIT
-ATE, *-ATTEDIT
ATTE, *-ATTEDIT
B, *BLOCK
BL, *-BLOCK
BH, *BHATCH
BO, *BOUNDARY
-BO, *-BOUNDARY
BR, *BREAK
C, *CIRCLE
CHP, *CHANGE
-CH, *CHANGE
CHA, *CHAMFER
COL, *COLOR
COLOUR, *COLOR
CO, *COPY
D, *DIMSTYLE
DAL, *DIMALIGNED
DAN, *DIMANGULAR
DBA, *DIMBASELINE
DBC, *DBCONNECT
DCE, *DIMCENTER
DCO, *DIMCONTINUE
DDI, *DIMDIAMETER
DED, *DIMEDIT
DI, *DIST
DIV, *DIVIDE
DLI, *DIMLINEAR
DO, *DONUT
DOR, *DIMORDINATE
DOV, *DIMOVERRIDE
DR, *DRAWORDER
DRA, *DIMRADIUS
DS, *DSETTINGS
DST, *DIMSTYLE
DT, *DTEXT
DV, *DVIEW
E, *ERASE
EB, *DDATTE
ED, *DDEDIT
EL, *ELLIPSE
EX, *EXTEND
EXIT, *QUIT
EXP, *EXPORT
EXT, *EXTRUDE
F, *FILLET
FI, *FILTER
G, *GROUP
-G, *-GROUP
GR, *DDGRIPS
H, *HATCH
HE, *HATCHEDIT
HI, *HIDE
DIN, *INSERT
ID, *PT_ID
IN, *-INSERT
IAD, *IMAGEADJUST
IAT, *IMAGEATTACH
ICL, *IMAGECLIP
IM, *IMAGE
-IM, *-IMAGE
IMP, *IMPORT
INT, *INTERSECT
INF, *INTERFERE
IO, *INSERTOBJ
J, *NEARJOIN
L, *LINE
LD, *LAYER
LA, *-LAYER
LE, *QLEADER
LEN, *LENGTHEN
LI, *LIST
LINEWEIGHT, *LWEIGHT
LO, *-LAYOUT
LS, *LIST
LT, *LINETYPE
-LT, *-LINETYPE
LTYPE, *LINETYPE
-LTYPE, *-LINETYPE
LTS, *LTSCALE
LW, *LWEIGHT
M, *MOVE
MA, *MATCHPROP
MAP, *EXPORT_SHP
ME, *MEASURE
MI, *MIRROR
ML, *MLINE
MO, *PROPERTIES
MP, *MATCHPROP
MS, *MSPACE
MT, *MTEXT
MV, *MVIEW
O, *OFFSET
OP, *OPTIONS
ORBIT, *3DORBIT
OS, *OSNAP
-OS, *-OSNAP
P, *PAN
-P, *-PAN
PA, *PASTESPEC
PARTIALOPEN, *-PARTIALOPEN
PE, *PEDIT
PL, *PLINE
PO, *POINT
POL, *POLYGON
PR, *OPTIONS
PRCLOSE, *PROPERTIESCLOSE
PROPS, *PROPERTIES
PRE, *PREVIEW
PRINT, *PLOT
PS, *PSPACE
PU, *PURGE
R, *REDRAW
RA, *REDRAWALL
RG, *REGEN
REA, *REGENALL
REC, *RECTANGLE
REG, *REGION
REN, *RENAME
-REN, *-RENAME
REV, *REVOLVE
RM, *DDRMODES
RO, *ROTATE
RPR, *RPREF
RR, *RENDER
S, *STRETCH
SA, *SAVE
SC, *SCALE
SCR, *SCRIPT
SE, *DSETTINGS
SEC, *SECTION
SET, *SETVAR
SHA, *SHADE
SL, *SLICE
SN, *SNAP
SO, *SOLID
SP, *SPELL
SPL, *SPLINE
SPE, *SPLINEDIT
ST, *STYLE
SU, *SUBTRACT
T, *MTEXT
-T, *-MTEXT
TA, *TABLET
TH, *THICKNESS
TI, *TILEMODE
TO, *TOOLBAR
TOL, *TOLERANCE
TOR, *TORUS
TR, *TRIM
TW, *TWISTTXT
UC, *DDUCS
UCP, *DDUCSP
UN, *UNITS
-UN, *-UNITS
UNI, *UNION
V, *VIEW
-V, *-VIEW
VP, *VPLAYER
-VP, *VPLAYER
W, *WBLOCK
-W, *-WBLOCK
WE, *WEDGE
X, *EXPLODE
XA, *XATTACH
XB, *XBIND
-XB, *-XBIND
XC, *XCLIP
XL, *XLINE
XR, *XREF
-XR, *-XREF
Z, *ZOOM

; The following are alternative aliases and aliases as supplied
; in AutoCAD Release 13.

AV, *DSVIEWER
CP, *COPY
DIMALI, *DIMALIGNED
DIMANG, *DIMANGULAR
DIMBASE, *DIMBASELINE
DIMCONT, *DIMCONTINUE
DIMDIA, *DIMDIAMETER
DIMED, *DIMEDIT
DIMTED, *DIMTEDIT
DIMLIN, *DIMLINEAR
DIMORD, *DIMORDINATE
DIMRAD, *DIMRADIUS
DIMSTY, *DIMSTYLE
DIMOVER, *DIMOVERRIDE
LEAD, *LEADER
TM, *TILEMODE

; Aliases for Hyperlink/URL Release 14 compatibility
SAVEURL, *SAVE
OPENURL, *OPEN
INSERTURL, *INSERT

; Aliases for commands discontinued in AutoCAD 2000:
AAD, *DBCONNECT
AEX, *DBCONNECT
ALI, *DBCONNECT
ASQ, *DBCONNECT
ARO, *DBCONNECT
ASE, *DBCONNECT
DDATTDEF, *ATTDEF
DDATTEXT, *ATTEXT
DDCHPROP, *PROPERTIES
DDCOLOR, *COLOR
DDLMODES, *LAYER
DDLTYPE, *LINETYPE
DDMODIFY, *PROPERTIES
DDOSNAP, *OSNAP
DDUCS, *UCS

; Autocad Map Aliases
ADELOGIN, *MAPLOGIN
MAPADMIN, *MAPTOPOADMIN
MAPBROWSELPN, *MAPBROWSELINK
MAPDEFINELPN, *MAPDEFINELT
MAPQUERY, *MAPTOPOQUERY
MAPWSEXECUTEQUERY, *MAPWSQUERYEXECUTE
MAPABOUT, *ABOUT

 
Posted : March 21, 2013 3:53 am
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That is an EXCELLENT post.

 
Posted : March 21, 2013 3:55 am
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I have Carlson 2013 Survey w/embedded.

The pgp files DO NOT work on my machine.

OR they are overridden by the software somehow.

 
Posted : March 21, 2013 3:57 am
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Sorry, I have CS12, so I don't know if they changed things for 13, to prevent the use of the pgp file.

That will make me re-think upgrading, for sure.

 
Posted : March 21, 2013 4:06 am
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> I have Carlson 2013 Survey w/embedded.
>
> The pgp files DO NOT work on my machine.
>
> OR they are overridden by the software somehow.

I have the same build, CS 2013 w/ Embedded ACAD, works fine for me. I was a bit worried it wouldn't work before I upgraded so I had one of my friends test it for me on their 2013 build and he didn't have any problems so I went for it. I'm running it on Windows 7. Might want to double check the file path you've placed it...just a guess.

Wes

 
Posted : March 21, 2013 6:08 am
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> This is one that I've had for a while. Just copy and paste it into notepad, and save it as:
>
> surv.pgp.
>
> Then put it in:
>
>> C:Program FilesCarlson Survey 2013Support

The path described above won't likely lead to immediate results unless that path is added into the Support File Search Path via Settings -- AutoCAD options. A better approach would be to locate the file in the "User" path as an approach similar to that described in [msg=195916]Item 2 in the "Carlson Survey 2013 Template?" thread[/msg]. Be aware, however, you'd use Windows Explorer (or Start -- Run) to locate the path rather than the dialog box shown in the aforementioned thread.

 
Posted : March 21, 2013 7:12 am
 jph
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Hmmm....that's where it is in mine, and it works...??

 
Posted : March 21, 2013 7:25 am
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(@aksurveyor)
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I got the error message

 
Posted : March 21, 2013 10:15 am
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Imbedded Autocad Is Not Autocad

Thanks Paul.
I found the list of available quick keys and it is quite limited. I need to add more. It looks like others below may have some help for me.

 
Posted : March 21, 2013 10:17 am
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Thanks!

 
Posted : March 21, 2013 10:20 am
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Thanks Ladd!

 
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