Carlson question

Why?

Paul in PA

The only way I could think of is by deselecting Group point entities from the carlson configure>general settings menu and then re-run field to finish. This will provide each item separately.

Totalsurv, post: 439477, member: 8202 wrote: The only way I could think of is by deselecting Group point entities from the carlson configure>general settings menu and then re-run field to finish. This will provide each item separately.

My point entities are already not grouped, the symbol and the points are not grouped together.
I was looking for a way for the symbol to not have file coordinates attached to it.

Or if possible is there a way to have the symbols for points to never have file coords. attached to them.

I'm no expert but there is a symbol placement utility that's just the symbol (reddish bulls-eye thing as I recall). You can choose which symbol as you would when setting a coordinated point. I'm not near my computer or I would load up a screen shot.

I have worked on surveys in other's offices that have become detached and I consider it a hindrance to good work. The symbol tells me a lot about what the point is without reading the description. If it is necessary to you, you can simply insert the symbol only in the point command, explode the point or do it other ways.

One caveat if the symbol is not associated with the point coordinate it is much more work to determine if it is in the right location.

Paul in PA

Edit - Explode - Block Explode

Still not sure what problem you are trying to solve (there may be a better solution).
However - Look at FILE --> Drawing Utilities --> Remove Reactors

That might do what you are needing. I'd test it on a copy.

If all you want is a point symbol:
Type in the command: ptsym
Drop down menus: draw>symbols>insert symbols

Don't explode (ew, gross)

OPTIONS -> Selection -> Object Grouping (No to this, make sure it is off)
Run your FLD2FIN and enjoy your blocks.

I do not care for my symbols to be attached to my points.

spledeus, post: 439545, member: 3579 wrote: Don't explode (ew, gross)

OPTIONS -> Selection -> Object Grouping (No to this, make sure it is off)
Run your FLD2FIN and enjoy your blocks.

I do not care for my symbols to be attached to my points.

This is sounding good......
Where would i find options i cant seem to follow this path. Is this for autcad version i should have mentioned i was using an intellicad version

My points symbol, point number, description and elevations are in their own different layers.
Regular autocad has a function that when the cursor is moved over a clump of points on the screen, they will appear to zoom in and separate so each can be read.
I'd really like to know if there is an option for that in Carlson.

Just to clarify my pts are set up so the pt# elev desc node(the little dot) and symbols are not grouped together. Once I get my drawing to a state where just my line work and symbols are shown I want to make multiple copies in model space. Basically just to draw proposed changes. Each copy having it's own viewport/layout etc.
If I double click any of the copied symbols it displays pt information NEZ etc. This is what I meant by disassociating the symbol from the pt. If I explode the symbol which is a block reference it just disappears. Also if I redraw my pts and need to erase and redraw my symbols in my base dwg then I will lose all my symbols in my copies.

We had a CAD question going around the office earlier this summer. Jake the intern took to the internet and found a post I made here that posed the same question. He did not look at the picture and did not know my internet name but said this guy has the same question.
https://surveyorconnect.com/community/threads/carlson-f2f-point-symbol-grouping-issue.251132/

There were 2 or 3 solutions in this post. I am not sure what PDMODE does but the CTRL+H seems to be the option I was seeking. The redraw Fld2Fin without drawing points is a cumbersome solution, but a solution nonetheless. If these do not work let me know, Carlson 2018 Beta 5 was released last week and they are wrapping up for the 2018 release.

MAG-EYE, post: 439704, member: 8763 wrote: JOnce I get my drawing to a state where just my line work and symbols are shown I want to make multiple copies in model space. Basically just to draw proposed changes. Each copy having it's own viewport/layout etc.

My advice would be to not do this. Not sure what proposed changes you are talking about doing, but are you familiar with manipulating layers within viewports?

BlitzkriegBob, post: 439712, member: 9554 wrote: My advice would be to not do this. Not sure what proposed changes you are talking about doing, but are you familiar with manipulating layers within viewports?

As in layer states? Having certain layers frozen in certain viewports? Yes
I always thought it would be to much of a pain to try to deal with layer states in view ports but admittedly I haven't given it much time.
In my office we typically have been saving multiple drawings for a project in different states like existing conditions / proposed conditions / etc.
I've always thought that wasn't the best thing to do and that we should try to start working with layer states in view ports.
There are times where we will show existing and proposed conditions on one plan with 2 vp's this is where i like to copy a set of the line work in the model space.

You don't necessarily need layer states per say, you just need to freeze layers in the current vp.

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Use burst instead of explode. It shouldn't disappear.

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