Carlson plotting double points

Inquiry and list the objects and you may find they exist in two different layers.

If so, simply erase the objects in the layer you do not want or turn it off.

pdmode
pdsize
?maybe

The way I've found to get around that is to assign points the symbol SPT0 (SPTzero), which is blank, and then resizing the DDPTYPE up to the desired size and symbol type. You could also do the exact opposite, set DDPTYPE to a blank symbol & then draw the points in as desired if you use multiple point symbols (Edit: This isn't a great idea, actually, as Carlson uses point nodes differently than it does symbols). This eliminates a separate node & symbol. Carlson is puzzling in how it handles points sometimes...

Copied from an old response of mine. Gotta love Carlson, sometimes!

Thanks for the replies. Will try them out this afternoon.

This is the first time I've seen this and it threw me for a loop.

Not sure of Intellicad but if this were AutoCAD, it looks like your drawing setting pdmode is set to 2 which will show the point as a cross, pdmode 3 is an "x", pdmode 32 is a circle. It looks like you want pdmode 0 to hide the point and keep the diamond symbol.

That is the kind of stuff that drove me nuts with Carlson. I guess I am the odd-ball here, but I prefer civil 3D for point management. Seems like there are more options in Carlson, but maybe the place I used it did not have everything setup properly. I felt like there were always duplicate points plotting up on the screen and they were not in the exact same location (different by thousandths or hundredths).

I will say that I absolutely love their field software and the field to finish functionality on SurvCE as well.

Each point block has a node, you are seeing the node as a plus (pdmode 1) and the symbol. When you are ready to plot, set your pdmode to 0 to "hide" the nodes.

VA LS 2867, post: 405419, member: 1444 wrote: Each point block has a node, you are seeing the node as a plus (pdmode 1) and the symbol. When you are ready to plot, set your pdmode to 0 to "hide" the nodes.

Thanks Jason et al.

I have been so busy (moving) I haven't had an opportunity to check the suggestions yet.

Hopefully the boss will give me a little time today.

Blessings, Merry Christmas, and prosperous New Year.

VA LS 2867, post: 405419, member: 1444 wrote: Each point block has a node, you are seeing the node as a plus (pdmode 1) and the symbol. When you are ready to plot, set your pdmode to 0 to "hide" the nodes.

Hey Jason that worked great! Thanks.
I tried setting it to 1 and the extra + went away. Hooray!

Not sure how in the world it was set to 2. I didn't change it.

What exactly is pdmode anyway?

[USER=6096]@Mapman[/USER]

I have found that with Carlson, it is necessary to create a template drawing with your preferences and settings for everything and maintain that file as your needs change.
When I begin a new drawing I open that template and save to my new drawing file name and begin drawing.
For some reasons and/or some situations jthat you or others enter into when your computer is turned on will change your Carlson settings.
SP:eyes:KY isn't it.

Mapman, post: 406200, member: 6096 wrote:
What exactly is pdmode anyway?

It's the Point Display setting. PDMODE affects the shape and PDSIZE affects the size. A positive PDSIZE fixes the size of the point and a negative PDSIZE makes the size of the point relative to the display. Here's a link to the many different point display options.

[USER=81]@A Harris[/USER] - Spooky is right. Beginning to see how a template file is probably the best practice to avoid unexpectedly tripping a toggle somewhere.

@ Peter-Hughes-Davies - Thanks for the explanation and the link. That will fill in some grey areas. Wasn't aware there were so many options.

I do like Carlson in spite of the differences from C3D (basic knowledge) and Microstation (better at) in that respect. Each have their good and not so good properties. Just hard sometimes to keep them all separate.

What I really miss is a nice clean CoGo package inside any of the major drafting packages. I just been using the "Locate by Angle-Distance and the intersection routines in Carlson. Which are okay but they always end after a single computation. Then you have to restart the routine.

Thanks for the help.

Mapman, post: 406222, member: 6096 wrote: [USER=81]@A Harris[/USER] - Spooky is right. Beginning to see how a template file is probably the best practice to avoid unexpectedly tripping a toggle somewhere.

@ Peter-Hughes-Davies - Thanks for the explanation and the link. That will fill in some grey areas. Wasn't aware there were so many options.

I do like Carlson in spite of the differences from C3D (basic knowledge) and Microstation (better at) in that respect. Each have their good and not so good properties. Just hard sometimes to keep them all separate.

What I really miss is a nice clean CoGo package inside any of the major drafting packages. I just been using the "Locate by Angle-Distance and the intersection routines in Carlson. Which are okay but they always end after a single computation. Then you have to restart the routine.

Thanks for the help.

I don't know if you ever used C&G software, but the commands are inside Carlson. I prefer some C&G commands over Carlson commands.

@Stacy Carrol

In the early 80s I test drove most of the original COGO software out there and the one that just did not make any sense was the one that updated, translated and rotated the corodinates every time the space bar was struck.
I do like that Carlson has an option to use prior commands of the software that has been added to the original versions.

Peter Hughes-Davies, post: 406211, member: 48 wrote: It's the Point Display setting. PDMODE affects the shape and PDSIZE affects the size. A positive PDSIZE fixes the size of the point and a negative PDSIZE makes the size of the point relative to the display. Here's a link to the many different point display options.

That is so cool! I did not know about the negative setting relative to the display. Thanks man.

Funny - lots of responses and none that match mine.

PTYPE
Set the point style to none.

Been using this setting for many years - never needed Autocad to display points.

DDPTYPE brings up a dialogue box
But that doesn't solve the double problem.
Check the box-erase duplicates
I have found doubles in my drawing sometimes where I have redrawn points at different sizes, but it doesn't happrn all the time. It's like Carlson sometimes loses the link to the points drawn. I usually erase and redraw the points. It's kind of a pain if you have several point groups to draw in different layers.

imaudigger, post: 406278, member: 7286 wrote: Funny - lots of responses and none that match mine.

PTYPE
Set the point style to none.

Been using this setting for many years - never needed Autocad to display points.

PTYPE doesn't appear to be an Intellicad function. At least not on mine. It doesn't recognize that key-in.

PDMODE is the correct function. When I ran it my setting was at 2 instead of 1. Which turned off the extra + symbol.

[USER=8398]@billvhill[/USER] - Your DDPTYPE brings up the Drawing Setting - Entity Creation dialogue box. Now I see the connection to Brads post about the negative setting etc. Which is a toggle in the dialogue box.

Why does there need to be both Nodes and Points? It only creates these complicated (necessary?) procedures.

Would be nice if options were available in the context menu (right click) for it to be quickly accessed.

Thanks for the suggestions.