I thought I had the hang of Point Groups. But I must be doing something wrong this morning.
I have a Point Group called TOPO. The properties for this group is INCLUDE points with raw description matching G*. My intention is to weed out all the points that do not begin with G*, but nothing seems to be working. The TOPO group has all of the same points I have in my ALL POINTS group. I have done this before and it worked fine. But not today.
I have had similar issues with the new AutoCAD.
You can spend hours to try and find the fix for this (which is worth it if it is a procedure you repeatedly do on all your jobs), or just export the points into excel, sort them there, delete what you don't want in the group and then just re-import and select add to point group during import.
I was hoping it was me and not the software. But I agree, it appears it's a software glitch. Not happy.
Try freezing all except the points you need. Include with number matching 'selection set in drawing'. That should work...
I may be way off base here but I know that in Land Desktop my point groups would always prompt me for the "include" tab and at one point I either clicked on the "exclude" tab or it changed at one point. About a month ago I spent a good couple minutes trying to figure out why the points I was including would not add to that group.
Of course I was excluding those points.
Not suggesting your as boneheaded as me but I know at least one other person that got caught in that same trap - especially when you are busy and not catching these things.
Honestly - since I am going to be switching over soon, I am hoping it is as simple as that and not a true points problem since that sounds like a nightmare.
In the Point Group Properties dialog box, go to the Overrides tab and check those. In the point group stack, enabling the overrides to the subject point group will override all the settings on the point groups below the subject point group, and will also override the settings for point groups above it that do not have overrides enabled.
Make sense?
If your subject point group does not have overrides enabled, a point group below it that does have overrides enabled may be controlling the behavior of the subject point group.
If I haven't confused you yet please let me know.
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try refreshing. sometimes the points are in the group but just not displaying properly.
Is this point group on the top of your stack?
Yes. Top of stack.
While some consider points on individual layers an outdated concept I find it very useful even today. Point groups I use for control and DTM processing nothing further.
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No clue, I just tried this in 3 different drawings with no issues. You must have an 'include all points' selected or some other toggle in the point groups.
> While some consider points on individual layers an outdated concept I find it very useful even today. Point groups I use for control and DTM processing nothing further.
I agree 100%, I never control things with point groups. I only use them the for DTMs and for exporting certain point ranges.
Are any of you guys using points with layers in Civil 3D?
We consistently use points with layers (in Land Desktop)and it works great. I can go to any date and see exactly what we located, staked etc... on a certain day.
We have not yet moved to Civil 3D but will be soon and not sure if you can still use points in the same way.
Thanks
Any luck yet?
Reading this thread I don't see any obvious reason why it should not be working for you. Maybe try auditing the drawing.
Open the point group properties dialog and check the Query Builder tab. That should tell you exactly how the group is defined.
