Hello from Baker County Oregon

Tim,

Welcome from Portland, Oregon!

Greetings from Down Under

Willkommen, Tim from a former Eugenian, now just outside of Peoria (Sun City), via Juneau, so we kinda traded places.

Welcome.?ÿ Anyone living in a county with 16,000 humans and 1,000,000 cattle is living the dream.?ÿ Except those living within a half-mile of feedlots for obvious reasons.

Welcome to the web site and to Oregon! I worked in Baker (it was just "Baker" at the time) in 1978 for the USFS as a surveyor and then up in La Grande for a while at Anderson Perry.

Posted by: @bakercoplanner

Baker County (way eastern Oregon) - about 16K people and 1,000,000 Cattle .?ÿ .?ÿ .

More like 75,000 cattle (USDA 2017 stats) and 98% of agricultural producers (owners) are white.?ÿ
?ÿI lived in Walla Walla, Pendleton, Wenatchee and Boise for over 20 years and to say the rural towns are conservative is an understatement.?ÿ

They are slackers on cattle production compared to my home county.?ÿ To obtain the same density of cattle per square mile they would have over 121,000 head of cattle.

Ahh, Baker City??ÿ I did an ALTA on the Safeway store out there a few years ago.?ÿ ?????ÿ

@mike-berry Did you know Barry G. Simrell (sp?) who was a boss in the seventies for a while out of the Umatilla NFS office in Walla Walla, then Pendleton, while I was there and became a big boss in Baker for Wallowa-Whitman NFS.?ÿ He retired and as far as I know lives in Milton Freewater at age 85 and is enjoying his greatgrandchildren.?ÿ He was born and raised in Eastern WA/OR and when I knew him was quite the character.?ÿ I've stories I could tell would embarrass us both.

Posted by: @bstrand

Ahh, Baker City??ÿ I did an ALTA on the Safeway store out there a few years ago.?ÿ ?????ÿ

My Mom (RIP) and sister have lived in Baker (City) for years and Safeway was our go to store when I visited.

@mike-marks?ÿ

No, the name isnƒ??t familiar. I was running an out of town crew and only remember the two bosses who I worked for, Ralph Reynolds and Cliff Jacobson. Didnƒ??t really get to know the rest of the engineering staff. Great summer, camping?ÿdown by Unity, Austin Junction, Whitney. Come back to town and then head out for backpacking trips on weekends in the southern Wallowas or the Elkhorns or the Strawberries for the weekend. Great country. Lots of untrammeled homesteads and mining cabins back then. Great time and place to be a feral 21 year old.

Welcome!

@mike-berry Good Morning Mr. Berry, I'm told by those on this forum that you would be a great resource for a question I posted in the "Business, Finance, and Legal" Thread - it is in regards to a property held in single ownership that has since (way back) been divided through the acquisition of land for I-84 that now runs through the middle - although the Assessor doesn't code these as separate, would that now be considered discrete tracts and handled as such with regards to obtaining a Lot of Record in our State.?ÿ I find no clear direction in the Statutes - but I may not be looking in the right spot.?ÿ I'm also not a lawyer - but a retired Map Maker who is now playing the role of planner to pay for health insurance.?ÿ Any insight?

Have you tried calling the planners in Umatilla and/or Union Counties??ÿ They might be a good resource.

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Howdy Tim,

I believe they are still considered one tax lot. Back in the 90s Deschutes County built an overpass of Tumalo Road across highway 97 at Deschutes Junction north of Bend. ODOT right-of-way agents acquired R/W for the county road so they bought it in fee, like they do with highway R/W (instead of having it dedicated to the public like the county does, which only creates an easement.

A hay operation, tax lot 201, west of the highway was bisected by the new Tumalo Road. The R/W is akin to state highway R/W, owned in fee by the government.

On the GIS interactive map below, and on the tax map below, you can see that tax lot 201 is one tax lot, despite being split by Tumalo Road.

GIS:

http://dial.deschutes.org/Real/InteractiveMap/132973

Tax map:

http://dial.deschutes.org/API/Real/GetReport/132973?report=TaxMap

Iƒ??m sure the Oregon county planners, through the Association of Oregon Counties (ƒ??AOCƒ?) have an email list/listserv sort of arraignment and I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND getting on it to ask this question. No need to reinvent the wheelƒ?? I belonged to the county surveyor list before I retired and it was invaluable for untangling unique problems. With the advice from other surveyors whoƒ??d seen some of the new-to-me situations that crossed my desk, I avoided making some mistakes that would have cost landowners unnecessary woe and financial harm. My instincts as to how laws should work have sometimes proved to be 180 degrees out from what the stupid laws say.?ÿ

Oregon land use planning is an extremely complicated moving target of a beast and I leave planning problems to planners. The best ones can cite from memory the LUBA (Land Use Board of Appeals) cases that currently shape planning policy throughout the state. Mileage will vary with local county and city code, but these can only make state law more restrictive, they canƒ??t relax it. Additionally, your county assessor is probably well versed in the problem at hand. The assessors statewide are usually fairly consistent in their assessment of lands and tax accounts.?ÿ

Good luck!