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I got an early christmas present...a new R10 (and a V10). I just picked them up, so have not yet had the opportunity to use either unit.
one of the reasons I got the R10 is that there is built in NTrip capability...server, client, and caster. I was hoping there would be some more detailed info about the use of these, but there isn't, at least not that I have found so far.
As of now I do not have a SIM card yet for the receiver. I want to be able to set it up over a point, and be able to connect to it using an intuicom RTK bridge from another receiver. Basically i want to use it as a RTK but without the radio, using the internet as the transport medium.
I found, in the WebUI, a page that is used to set this up.
If anyone has done this, and has some instructions, I would appreciate reading them. It would save me a bunch of fussing with it trying different things.
Are you planning to use it as a mobile base with corrections sent over cell?
My knowledge is more related to Javad's equipment but I believe that regardless of manufacturer one of the biggest hurdles to overcome is having a static IP for the base mobile device.
Yes, that is what I want to do.
I don't know anything about this, but it sounds cool.
Rover as NTrip caster
I use NoIP for the office, for several things, like DNS, SMTP, etc, so I have an account there.
I found a setting in the receiver to enter the DDNS settings, and it has no-ip in the drop down box.
Getting there....
Really cool features so far.
I have heard that getting the sim card setup can be difficult. I haven't got that far yet.
I have successfully got my two Javad Triumph 1's (with help from Michael @Javad) to do this and it's the cat's meow. Cell connection is great. Love it better than UHF radios. Got to have static on one and special provisioning with cell provider. It's nice to put the base in a open safe place which may be 10+ miles away. Doesn't matter to me now.
I got the dynamic IP address service to work, so I MAY not need a static IP. Took some guessing at what went in one of the fields, but once I got it right it said it registered, and No-IP also showed it as active. I am going to mess with it tomorrow in the daylight.
drove 900 miles since yesterday morning, so kinda tired now....
Gavin: as for the V10, I am looking forward to using it. We don't have any thing scheduled for it yet, so that will give us some time to get up to speed and figure out the whole workflow. I think it will come in very handy, a supplement to our (old) scanner. I am hoping to get a TX8 scanner to replace our old GX, but what I heard at dimensions is that they were several months behind.
I think the first project for the V10 is my barn, which we already scanned. Should be a good test bed.
About the V10
John,
looking forward to hear about your experiences with the V10, will you operate it from the TSC3 or from the tablet.
Enjoy the new toys! And have a great Christmas!
Christof.
Rover as NTrip caster
> You are going to have way too much fun with that imaging head. Enjoy!
Lookig forward to some of the images to come.
About the V10
You are going to really love your V10! I have demonstrated it to do Power Poles, intersections, buildings and the results are great!
When doing Power Poles you can take a vertical position with the R10, switch to the V10, rename the point to the same number as the previous shot, lean the V10 back as far as necessary in order to see the top of the pole, take the picture.
When processing there is a resection method that works very well and it will correct for the tilt of the camera over multiple points.
The bottom line is we have been getting .02 - .04 out to 150' when compared to the DR shots with the instrument. It is faster and more accurate than doing the same work with the instrument alone.
I would run the LaFebure Caster (free) at your office on a static IP (with a port forwarded to the outside.) Then you can have your rover login to the office caster using the normal procedure.
There are some advantages to this method:
o Static IP. This resolves having to change the IP address every day (or sometimes more than once per day.)
o Ability to debug base. You can look at the caster screen (I use tightVNC) and make sure data is flowing from your base to the office
o Ability to debug rover. You can look at the caster screen and make sure your rover is connected and actually see the data being pushed out to it.
o No changes on base or rover from day to day. All the settings remain the same every day.
BTW, this works great. My test base at the house (3 KM east of the office) is on a DSL line with a dynamic IP address. It changes about once per week. It is configured to push both CMR+ and RTCM3 corrections down to the caster, which I then use to test receivers. It is the BOMB.
Actually if you want to try it out, I can set you up a couple of accounts (one for the base and several for rovers), because of the ubiquitous nature of the internet, the caster can literally be anywhere.
Even though I am on Holiday in San Diego, it will only take 1 minute to setup remotely.
M
About the V10
Hi,
interesting way of fixing the lack of upright cameras, Superb the software can handle the tilted images.
I had a demo some months ago and was somewhat surprised about the power consumption and the additional power pack mounted at the bottom of the prism pole.
Chr.
About the V10
I bought a new Trimble tablet to use with it. It also has a radio so we could use the tablet with our S6 (and with the R10).
Mark: when I looked at the Lefebure Caster a few months ago, my understanding was that it only accepts a serial input, meaning the receiver would have to be here at the office. I want to be able to set the receiver up anywhere and use it. But now that I read the web page it states that it will support other Ntrip servers via IP. SO, not sure if I need that or not.
So far I have the system working internally, i.e. I can connect from a rover to the RTK data stream from inside my network (i.e. all on the internal network, using the internal IP address). I cannot connect from outside. I have the DDNS setup, and it is working. When I ping I get a reply back, when I do a DNS lookup, it resolves to my network IP address.
But, I believe it is a port forwarding issue on my router. I set the router to forward port 2101 TCP and UDP to the R10. I have this rule in the router the same as the rule to access my cameras from the outside, and they work fine. Do I also need to forward 80?
You said NTRIP, is it possible that the NTRIP port is different from the TCP and HTML ports?
For my Javad receivers, the default is 8002 for TCP, 80 for HTML and 123 for NTRIP, although I must confess I've never connected NTRIP before, only TCP and HTML.
Just a thought.
No, the LaFanbure Caster is a true caster. The port is set to 5000 by default, which is just fine. You only need to forward that port.
It uses the same port for input that it uses for output. Which makes it simpler. So you don't need 80.
I think that if you set the base outside your office network.
I used to use DynDNS but when they stated charging I thought the experience of using a caster would be a great learning experience. It worked so well, I have never looked back.
M
John, Static only costs me an extra $3 per month per card.
Philip: what provider? As this point I don't even know if I need Verizon (CDMA) or AT&T (GSM). I assume it is GSM, but I am not sure if I can use Verizon (my current cell provider). I do have an extra phone that is GSM only for travels, and my regular phone is verizon 4G, but will work in Europe (GSM), so I am confused.
Trimble has a little-known piece of software that the T4D guys use; can't remember the exact name of it but it's a data streaming package that basically lets you receive data (like RTK corrections) on one port and re-direct them to another port. Last I heard you could buy it for about $500 if you could find someone who knew enough about it to sell it to you.
When I first got my hands on an R10 I set it up as an RTK base with a SIM card using the web UI on my iPad and streamed the corrections from Gonzales, LA to a PC running that package in northwest Arkansas. I then connected an R8 / TSC3 to the same server using a MiFi for internet access and it fixed immediately... worked just as well as if I'd been using a radio.
The V10 is pretty awesome - like scanning, it takes a little practice to get proficient, but it's a great tool for certain things. The biggest thing I've found is that you really have to be careful to have common objects in all the photos. If you can have a couple of points with known coordinates that helps, and putting out targets helps if you find yourself needing manual tie points. TBC 3.40 added the ability to constrain a dimension, which is huge - now you can use the V10 as a standalone, which opens up indoors, etc. I'm sure you probably got all of that at Dimensions.
AT&T.
