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I saw that NSPS had/has the 2009 Manual and River and Lake Boundaries by J. Simpson on sale for their moving special.?ÿ I already own a couple copies of the Manual, but it got me thinking about a good text on water boundaries.?ÿ What do you consider the best book on water boundary determinations and law??ÿ?ÿ


 
Posted : September 13, 2022 8:45 pm
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Dick Elgin has a book, "Riparian Boundaries for Arkansas" that applies to most states along the Mississippi River and probably beyond.


 
Posted : September 14, 2022 7:15 am
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I have a copy of Bruce Flushman's "Water Boundaries" for the highest bidder of a contribution to SurveyorConnect.


 
Posted : September 14, 2022 4:25 pm
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A little late to the game, but here's my 0.04'...

Simpson's book is fantastic for federal law.  It's a must have. If you have a 2009 BLM Manual, you have a good portion of what is in Simpson's book.

I have both Flushman's and Cole's.  Both are good, but I really like Flushman's because of the extensive discussion and case cites.  It's the better one for the western states, IMO.  Cole is probably an easier read for most.  If you're on the west coast, Flushman's is a must have and Cole is a should have.  If you're farther east, Cole is the must have and Flushman the should have.

Some states have publications specific to those states.  WA is a good example.  Anything by Middleton or Broadus, and the Aquatic Land Boundaries by the WA DNR should be on your shelf if you work in WA.  Not familiar with Elgin's book(s), but If there is something like that for the state or states that you practice in, I would consider them to be must haves.

As to the poll question, don't be a cheapskate, get 'em all!.  If you need to prioritize: 1) Whatever is specific to your state (if such a thing exists in your state), 2) Cole or Flushman, 3) Simpson, 4) Flushman or Cole.


 
Posted : March 30, 2023 11:40 am
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A little late to the game, but here's my 0.04'...

Simpson's book is fantastic for federal law.  It's a must have. If you have a 2009 BLM Manual, you have a good portion of what is in Simpson's book.

I have both Flushman's and Cole's.  Both are good, but I really like Flushman's because of the extensive discussion and case cites.  It's the better one for the western states, IMO.  Cole is probably an easier read for most.  If you're on the west coast, Flushman's is a must have and Cole is a should have.  If you're farther east, Cole is the must have and Flushman the should have.

Some states have publications specific to those states.  WA is a good example.  Anything by Middleton or Broadus, and the Aquatic Land Boundaries by the WA DNR should be on your shelf if you work in WA.  Not familiar with Elgin's book(s), but If there is something like that for the state or states that you practice in, I would consider them to be must haves.

As to the poll question, don't be a cheapskate, get 'em all!.  If you need to prioritize: 1) Whatever is specific to your state (if such a thing exists in your state), 2) Cole or Flushman, 3) Simpson, 4) Flushman or Cole.

 

Thanks!  I'd certainly like to collect them all, but I need to prioritize for the sake of my wallet.  Given your advice, I'll probably start with Flushman's first and go from there.  

 


 
Posted : April 8, 2023 8:20 pm

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@eapls2708 That gets you the 'useful post of the year' award.. Thank you!


 
Posted : April 9, 2023 8:58 am
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A little late to the game, but here's my 0.04'...

Simpson's book is fantastic for federal law.  It's a must have. If you have a 2009 BLM Manual, you have a good portion of what is in Simpson's book.

I have both Flushman's and Cole's.  Both are good, but I really like Flushman's because of the extensive discussion and case cites.  It's the better one for the western states, IMO.  Cole is probably an easier read for most.  If you're on the west coast, Flushman's is a must have and Cole is a should have.  If you're farther east, Cole is the must have and Flushman the should have.

Some states have publications specific to those states.  WA is a good example.  Anything by Middleton or Broadus, and the Aquatic Land Boundaries by the WA DNR should be on your shelf if you work in WA.  Not familiar with Elgin's book(s), but If there is something like that for the state or states that you practice in, I would consider them to be must haves.

As to the poll question, don't be a cheapskate, get 'em all!.  If you need to prioritize: 1) Whatever is specific to your state (if such a thing exists in your state), 2) Cole or Flushman, 3) Simpson, 4) Flushman or Cole.

 

Thanks!  I'd certainly like to collect them all, but I need to prioritize for the sake of my wallet.  Given your advice, I'll probably start with Flushman's first and go from there.  

 

I read about half of Flushman’s book. I don’t think it demistified anything personally. I’m pretty sure it’s Flushman, has a lot of Delta Meadows in it (State vs SP, trial court case only that Flushman worked on).

PM your address and I will mail it to you. It may take me a week or so to get to it, I think it is in my downtown office (I’m on vacation).

Dave in Pasadena gave me his copy of Evidence and Procedures so consider it me paying that forward.

 


 
Posted : April 10, 2023 7:36 am