Your tax dollars at work.?ÿ Someone probably came up with the new term UAP because it's hard to be taken serious when you talk officially about a UFO.?ÿ I mean the government (men in black suits) has spent years trying to discredit anyone that says they saw "something" in the sky...and now they're having to admit there really is something up there.?ÿ It's almost humorous.?ÿ
So what are they??ÿ Nobody either knows or is willing to talk about the subject.
The one thing that begs for an explanation is there are confirmed phenomenon that distinctly exhibit behavior that appears to indicate they are under intelligent control.?ÿ And in some cases where military aircraft have attempted pursuit the UAP clear out in a manner that defies our knowledge of the limits of physics.
Little green men? Probably not.?ÿ But I'm sure that when we humans here on Earth are finally privy to the truth about these things it will be more fantastically unexpected than anything we could imagine.
Beam us all up Scotty.?ÿ ;)?ÿ ?ÿ
Check out Commander David Fravor. His low key matter of fact presentation is pretty compelling.
Its all pretty interesting to think about.
I just can't get past the faster than the speed of sound thing, the physical possiblity of some sort of dampening or whatever seems super complicated, if you're limited in our paradigms.
Bring on the weird!
Based on some of the reports of speeds 5x the speed of sound and no sonic boom, rapid changes in direction, entering and exiting water, the given laws of physics as we understand them don't necessarily apply as we would expect, which leads me to ponder the possibility that this is astrophysics at work, folding and warping of space and time, altering gravity, vehicles powered by little black holes under the hood. We may not be ready to handle the truth, but dang if it wouldn't be interesting to try.
I am really gonna enjoy this thread. ?ÿWe are detective-like truth seekers here, aren??t we (in a way), more or less?
While I serious doubt these craft have little green men inside them, they may indeed be operated by little green men.?ÿ?ÿI guess the concept of remote sensing and drones escapes the average TV newscaster.?ÿ It seems like all the news reports want to center on the concept these UAP are aliens.
Can you imagine the indigenous population of Mars tapping at the video camera on our latest Martian rover thinking there has to be a live being inside.?ÿ
And I've heard people wonder why the 'aliens' just don't come and sit down and chat with us.?ÿ I'm thinking the aliens would view that just like we would view sitting down and chatting with a chimpanzee, not a lot to be gained. And bananas would only complicate matters.
While I seriously doubt that there are any connections to aliens involved with these phenomena, I like Uncle Paden's perspective.
I find it quite reasonable that there are intelligent species out there.?ÿ But unless they have extremely long lifetimes and attention spans, the vast distances and the laws of physics, even with imaginable extensions, preclude their visiting either in person or with drones.
And if you are willing to believe they are watching us, I find it inconceivable that we aren't in quarantine and our interstellar probes would be destroyed. As a species, we're too dangerous to be allowed in intelligent society.
Meanwhile, they don't need to do that because we are about to quarantine ourselves with orbiting space debris, analogous to filling every sea harbor with floating mines as a byproduct of navigation.
...And if you are willing to believe they are watching us, I find it inconceivable that we aren't in quarantine and our interstellar probes would be destroyed. As a species, we're too dangerous to be allowed in intelligent society.
Meanwhile, they don't need to do that because we are about to quarantine ourselves with orbiting space debris, analogous to filling every sea harbor with floating mines as a byproduct of navigation.
I think if UAP were terrestrial in origin there would be tell-tale evidence..If Putin was behind them, the Ukraine would be his.?ÿ If the U.S. was behind them Kim Jong-un wouldn't be able to get a pop-bottle rocket off the ground.?ÿ Someone somewhere would have used this technology for gain.?ÿ?ÿ
So I try not to project human behavior or tendencies onto a situation where it just might not apply.?ÿ Things about our "human" shortcomings might just be viewed as unique natural behavior with no judgement one way or the other.?ÿ An example might be lions in the jungle.?ÿ We know they're there, we know they are fierce and eat people.?ÿ That doesn't mean we don't study their form of life.?ÿ
The thought of some other intelligent life form quarantining human life because we're too dangerous seems a little archaic to me.?ÿ If highly advanced beings thought we were a problem I'm pretty sure they would have taken care of things by now.?ÿ Our space junk or weapons might just be petty details.
I'm just hoping they're not carnivorous.?ÿ And if they are I hope they're not hungry. 😉
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But I'm sure that when we humans here on Earth are finally privy to the truth about these things it will be more fantastically unexpected than anything we could imagine
I'm just hoping they're not carnivorous.
Anything can happen in the Twilight Zone.?ÿ An episode yesterday had a fellow walking into his hometown after being gone for 25 years.?ÿ He finally realized that he was actually back in town prior to his leaving it.?ÿ He goes to his childhood home and finds his parents, but they don't know who he is.?ÿ He sees himself on a merry-go-round in the park and remembers he fell off and hurt his leg.?ÿ He tries to warn the younger version of himself but too late.?ÿ Quite spooky just thinking about that time travel as a possible reality.
I'm still pretty skeptical of this stuff.?ÿ Between the unreliable human eye, mind tricks, and the fact that somehow nobody ever seems to get a clear picture or video of these things I'm inclined to say this is all as fake or misunderstood as it's always been.
If a spaceship lands on the white house lawn and a martian steps out then I'll be happy to admit I'm wrong.?ÿ ?????ÿ
Imagine meeting up with your great-great-great grandpa somehow.?ÿ A demonstration with two smart phones would fall into the same category of disbelief.
...Quite spooky just thinking about that time travel as a possible reality.
My pea-sized brain mulls over time travel from time to time (pun intended) and I've come to a train-of-thought that time travel is probably very feasible, but only in one direction.?ÿ I believe it is possible to leave what would be considered the "here and now" an travel into the future.?ÿ But I don't feel it's possible to travel "back" in time.?ÿ ?ÿ
PS - This theory only applies if 'time' in this universe is a constant.?ÿ If it's not, all bets are off.
A demonstration with two smart phones
Most of our technology would boggle back then, if it would work. Handheld radios might serve. Smart phones wouldn't talk or most apps work without the towers, so would only light up and show pictures. No gnss sats, etc. either.
I read a time travel story where someone went back to the 1940's and convinced people their story was true by giving them two identical solar-powered pocket calculators, one working and one disassembled to show what it was made of.
Clarke's law, any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. So the calculator was the right technology in that case to still be understandable but not reproduceable for the experts of that time.
somehow nobody ever seems to get a clear picture or video
Elon musk recently tweeted a strong argument against alien sightings
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1374167754404630528/photo/1
Camera resolution has improved versus time, but "UFO" pictures haven't gotten better.
It's like the photographs of Big Foot that always seem to be blurry. Well, they finally figured it was not the camera. It's just that Big Foot is a huge and blurry animal.
My thought had the ancestor coming to our time frame, rather than me going back to his time. I think all of my great-great grandparents were deceased before the basic phone was in use.?ÿ One great-grandfather died about 1883.?ÿ One great-grandmother died about 1897.?ÿ Add two more generations back to that for a great-great-great grandparent.
I find it quite reasonable that there are intelligent species out there.?ÿ But unless they have extremely long lifetimes and attention spans, the vast distances and the laws of physics, even with imaginable extensions, preclude their visiting either in person or with drones.
I concur.?ÿ I'd emphasize interstellar distances, even for weightless photons at the speed of light involve light-years of delay, and anything that has mass would require crushing stellar powered acceleration utilizing star powered machinery, highly unlikely.?ÿ About warping space and getting through cheaply, not gonna happen, the ship would have to have neutron star power and still not work.?ÿ The universe is vast and our little carbon based rock orbiting a mundane sun is not worthy of examination.
So my take is UFO hysteria is in the trash heap like Bigfoot, flat earth, Illuminati stuff.?ÿ Don't get me wrong, I've seen some crazy stuff in the sky, and the military has major sensors which may not get it right.
So I'll assert no interstellar visits from advanced civilizations have never happened and never will.
