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(@threerivers)
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Have you had your weekly hours reduced to under 30 hours
to eliminate your health insurance?

 
Posted : June 2, 2013 5:18 pm
(@jimmy-cleveland)
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No, I have not experienced this, however I think that there will be more part time workers in the future.

My daughter is looking for a job closer to home, and a few of the places she has applied have told her that she would only be allowed so many hours to keep them classified as part time.

 
Posted : June 2, 2013 7:32 pm
 Thad
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And so it begins.

 
Posted : June 3, 2013 6:55 am
(@matthew-loessin)
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No, we pay 100% employee insurance and most our field crews work 50-60 hours per week.

 
Posted : June 3, 2013 7:52 am
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The 2949 rule, keep the hours under 30 if you have 50 or more employees. For the average small surveying biz, this isn't going to be a factor, large multi-discipline firms, yes.

Whether we can continue to afford health care insurance (required or not) is another issue, ours went up somewhere around 40% this year, some years are up more than others, BUT the trend is always up in double digit percentages every year.

SHG

 
Posted : June 3, 2013 8:44 am
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"...most our field crews work 50-60 hours per week."

Why?

 
Posted : June 3, 2013 11:42 am
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No - but we went to a $5,000 deductible.

 
Posted : June 3, 2013 11:43 am
(@matthew-loessin)
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Normal work week is Monday through Saturday on plant/facility construction sites, and pipeline crews work 10-15 hours per day Monday-Friday and sometimes Saturdays.

Why not?

 
Posted : June 3, 2013 3:11 pm
(@don-blameuser)
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And so WHAT begins, Thadie?
What's your point ?
Nothing political, was it?
Of course not, right?

Just keeping an eye on things.
This is not a political site, you know.

Don

 
Posted : June 3, 2013 4:54 pm
(@chris-duncan)
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Maybe not what he meant

Maybe "so it begins" was about his daughter moving closer to home. Haha. Just a joke no offense intended.

 
Posted : June 4, 2013 4:20 pm
(@bow-tie-surveyor)
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> No - but we went to a $5,000 deductible.

That is what I have, but I am concerned that high deductible policies might not meet the minimum required insurance mandated in the future.

 
Posted : June 4, 2013 4:32 pm
(@don-blameuser)
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Maybe not what he meant

> Maybe "so it begins" was about his daughter moving closer to home. Haha. Just a joke no offense intended.

None taken, Chris.
You are probably more insightful then I am.
I get too gripped sometimes 🙂
Thanks for your comment,

Don

 
Posted : June 4, 2013 4:48 pm
 abw
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I have heard mention of people being ejected from this board in the past but have never seen it. Is a political discussion referring to an impact on a surveyor's work benefits really that off-topic? It's something that will have an impact on us all.

I understand everyone getting tired of a nut job who only posts about politics and uses every opportunity to do so in other forums, but just a brief mention and an immediate "watch dog" gives me a weird feeling about remaining a member here.

 
Posted : June 5, 2013 2:34 am
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My premium went up 42% in April.

 
Posted : June 5, 2013 3:38 am
(@the-pseudo-ranger)
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My brother in law is a "temp" employee at a college he's worked at for 2 years ... Yeah ... They have him classified a temp to avoid paying him any benefits. He doesn't get a single paid holiday or sick day. They told him they will now reduce his hours to avoid paying him benefits. Cheap employers looking for ways to cut costs at the employee's expense is nothing new, it's been going on for decades.

 
Posted : June 5, 2013 7:37 am
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I wouldn't worry. I believe the two posters have history from when P&R was still allowed.

 
Posted : June 5, 2013 8:48 am
(@don-blameuser)
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Hey, I hear ya, abw (is that your real name?)
If it makes you feel weird, you need to move along.
That's just good advice 😉

Don

 
Posted : June 5, 2013 4:36 pm
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> Have you had your weekly hours reduced to under 30 hours
> to eliminate your health insurance?

Another NO here too. In fact, we stopped offering the group HMO health insurance bennie to our employees (12 at the time) back in '03 after the premiums doubled 3 years in a row.

17 Posts and over 1000 views of your OP...
and not one single example of work hours cut to eliminate health insurance. Hmmm.

 
Posted : June 5, 2013 4:55 pm
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> 17 Posts and over 1000 views of your OP...
> and not one single example of work hours cut to eliminate health insurance. Hmmm.

17 posts

13 posts that relate to insurance premiums, personal views, or other discussion

4 that actually addressed the question directly

of those 4

1 of those came from a self employed solo person
2 offered anecdotal evidence of the lowering of hours in general to avoid paying benefits of any kind based on family members experience

Probably not enough data gathered to really make for a "hmmm" moment.

Also, it is likely that any business owner who does intend to cut hours would not put it out on a surveying message board. Those who plan to probably haven't even informed their employees yet. That will be the pleasant surprise reserved for the company Christmas party.

It is already done by some to avoid having to pay the measly amount for holiday pay. It is pretty much a given that it will occur to avoid paying insurance premiums. The only thing left to see is how many companies will do so. That won't be known until a few years into the requirement as folks see if/how much of an impact the requirement has on their bottom line.

 
Posted : June 6, 2013 7:27 am
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> Have you had your weekly hours reduced to under 30 hours
> to eliminate your health insurance?

No, and I haven't heard of any employers doing something like this as a strategic move to save money. Typically I have seen many places drop to a 32 hour work week though.

 
Posted : June 6, 2013 7:50 am
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