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I live and work in the COMMONWEALTH of Kentucky but my stamp indicates that I am licensed by the STATE of Kentucky. I've brought this up before at the state level association meetings to much muttering and "don't go there" from some of the old timers. It has apparently been beaten to death in the past but I missed the beatings and am curious as to the whys and the wherefores.

How are you other Commonwealth licensees stamping your work and do you know any particulars about the issue.

[sarcasm]Kentucky was the last of the colonial states(commonwealth) so perhaps the stamp should have the words "fenceline surveyor" memorialized.[/sarcasm]


 
Posted : June 4, 2013 6:57 am
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Commonwealth of Massachusetts - Stamp says "Commonwealth of Massachusetts"

Works for me.

T.W.


 
Posted : June 4, 2013 7:01 am
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Mine is kind of old, but it says Commonwealth.... (and then the State Board of Registration)

but then the stamp (like you said) says "State of Kentucky"

All I an say is Identity Crisis!! LOL


 
Posted : June 4, 2013 7:17 am
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Virginia - certificate & seal both say Commonwealth.


 
Posted : June 4, 2013 7:21 am
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Does your stamp come from
the Commonwealth or do you have to order your own? Do you suppose that when it was ordered you mistakenly put down State of Kentucky rather than Commonwealth of Kentucky?


 
Posted : June 4, 2013 7:58 am

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The Kentucky Board of Licensure sends out the sample of exactly what the stamp is supposed to look like and it specifies "STATE".


 
Posted : June 4, 2013 8:00 am
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The cost, would be, 'cheaper', if you paid by the letter.


 
Posted : June 4, 2013 8:06 am
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Explanation desired

Is a Commonwealth automatically a State? How would one from outside know the difference? Or should we be "so many Commonwealths plus (50-# of Commonwealths)States"?


 
Posted : June 4, 2013 8:16 am
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KRS 322.340(1) states "Each professional engineer or professional land surveyor shall, upon licensure, obtain a seal or stamp of the design authorized by the board, bearing his or her name, license number, and the words "Licensed Professional Engineer" or "Licensed Professional Land Surveyor."

Couldn't you design your own stamp as long as it contains the required items and submit that design to be approved by the board? Is the one provided just a sample that shows how a stamp can look or is it the only approved design? Just curious, never really questioned it before.

Brent


 
Posted : June 4, 2013 8:23 am
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"...obtain a seal or stamp of the design authorized by the board...."

Authorized by the board

Old School Stamp !!


 
Posted : June 4, 2013 8:41 am

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Pennsylvania:
Certificate and Seal both show Commonwealth


 
Posted : June 4, 2013 9:23 am
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The REGISTERED part has been changed in Kentucky to now read LICENSED.


 
Posted : June 4, 2013 10:07 am
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Commonwealth vs. State

Commonwealth vs State

What is the difference between a 'commonwealth' and a 'state'?


 
Posted : June 4, 2013 10:16 am
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What the board says.

It says sample, not approved sample. Seems to me the language of the statute states "the design" not "a design" meaning there is only one approved sample, but yet it lets you determine the size of the stamp. I would contact someone on the board to see if you could submit a stamp of your own design to be approved by the board for use as your own personal stamp.


 
Posted : June 4, 2013 10:51 am
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Approved Stamps and Seals

KRS 322.340 requires every licensee to have an embossed metallic seal or a rubber stamp. Samples are depicted below. The minimum sizes are 1 3/8” for the engineering seal or stamp (maximum size of 1 5/8”) and 1 1/4” for the surveying seal or stamp (maximum size 1 1/2”).


 
Posted : June 4, 2013 11:20 am