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Safety, I don't know what possibly could....

The 3' wide island really sucked.....

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Posted : March 4, 2022 11:03 pm
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Posted by: @jitterboogie

The 3' wide island really sucked.....

three feet is a luxury.

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Posted : March 5, 2022 12:29 am
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@half-bubble?ÿ

I'm only shooting the lip and the mirror overhang from the bigger trucks make it ..... interesting....?ÿ


 
Posted : March 5, 2022 1:16 am
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The 3' wide island really sucked.....

I believe the most scared I have ever been while surveying was being between two trains going in the opposite direction.

This was nearly 50 years ago and we were surveying a large tract is Northwest Georgia that had a passing track just outside a tunnel.?ÿ Railroads were not nearly as strict about trespassing then as they are now.?ÿ We were traversing down the centerline and traverse points were tacks set on "half gauge" between the rails.?ÿ I heard a train coming and picked up and moved off the rails, between the tracks.?ÿ Due to the noise I didn't hear the train coming from the other direction until it was too late to move.?ÿ Logically I knew there was plenty of room, but emotionally I could feel the sides of the cars as they went by.

It took me a few minutes to slow my heart rate and get rid of the shakes before I could set up again.?ÿ I NEVER went between the tracks again.

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Posted : March 5, 2022 7:51 am
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Posted by: @andy-bruner

Logically I knew there was plenty of room

Not sure I believe there was enough room to be safe.?ÿ If anything is accidentally hanging off a load it could extend out as far as many side tracks. Think broken steel band on a load of lumber. I'd have been laying flat on the ground.


 
Posted : March 5, 2022 8:15 am

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Much safer than only a double yellow line on a 2 lane highway.?ÿ


 
Posted : March 5, 2022 8:38 am
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@andy-bruner?ÿ

You win.?ÿFthat noise.

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Posted : March 5, 2022 1:53 pm
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@bill93?ÿ

I saw a train going by about 35mph and suddenly something metal and heavy sprung out from somewhere. Fast enough that had I been closer than fifty or so feet away(outside the ROW ???? ) it would have hit me

After the train had passed, I found it was one of the thingamabobs(the bracket attached to the tie plates the rails sit on)

Weight at a few lbs, would have been a bad deal.

Trains are big and sometimes scary like Hippos.

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Posted : March 5, 2022 1:58 pm
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Posted by: @flga-2-2

Much safer than only a double yellow line on a 2 lane highway.?ÿ

I'd refuse that work.?ÿ The local State DOT probably has a guidance on that too, but as we all seem to know, no one cares or pays attention until someone who didn't take the precautions gets injured or killed.

This stretch I'm working on is particularly busy, but during rush hour it's safest due to congestion.

Not promoting the Yellow monopolistic company for free ad space but the IMU function has let me ignore the bubble and I'm getting shots at .02 +/- without ever taking my eyes off traffic when taking a shot in the clear spots....3 sec shot take more like 7....thanks Windows....

Confirmed with true bubble control shots and then staking out at about 30degrees of lean.

Pretty smooth I must say.

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Posted : March 5, 2022 2:02 pm
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Posted by: @flga-2-2

Much safer than only a double yellow line on a 2 lane highway.?ÿ

Texting makes this dangerouser.

Sexting, even more so.

I've heard alot of things as cause of accidents. A deer ran across, I dropped my cigarette. Between meth, sex, and a bee in the cab, stay away from active roads. Stay far away.

N


 
Posted : March 5, 2022 2:29 pm

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Posted by: @jitterboogie

I'd refuse that work.

Not when you are young and stupid. ?????ÿ


 
Posted : March 5, 2022 3:07 pm
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@flga-2-2?ÿ

Yeah, I'm older and wiser coming into this line of work so it's an "issue" when I unload the freight train of OSHA/other certs and stuff and say "Hey, where's the copy of our HSP and our OSHA 300 kept"?

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I'm ok with that.?ÿ Keeps them on their toes.


 
Posted : March 5, 2022 4:30 pm
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@nate-the-surveyor?ÿ

Yep.

If you're a survivor, your life is never the same.

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Posted : March 5, 2022 4:31 pm
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Once, 35-40 yrs ago or so, I was set up with a total station in Delight Arkansas. It was beside a road, going down to the swimming hole. North side of town. (For those who know Delight) A girl in a swimsuit drove by in a Camaro. My mind was on the enormity of the responsibility, and the tiny pay. As she drove by, I noticed a bumper sticker, on the camaro: "If I followed you home, would you keep me". The soft rock music was keeping it bumping through the mud holes in the road.

It made me realize that many others had a different worldview. Different priorities.?ÿ

I went home, and did Cogo til 10:30, and went to bed.

Now, I'm married, 12 kids (all with one wife), several are not going in a really great direction, with their lives. I know the pain of God above, who also has kids that don't do things his way. We have 4 grandkids. Time on earth is short. Regrets come from our failures to listen to the road signs.?ÿ

Nate

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Posted : March 5, 2022 5:15 pm
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LiDAR on a slow sunday morning at 05:00..


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Try cutting through six inches of asphalt pavement at 18 F to get to the bar with aluminum cap that is the section corner.?ÿ This was 10 inches west of the apparent centerline of two lanes with both headed north.?ÿ The original concrete roadbed?ÿ was the level of the cap.?ÿ The southbound lanes were on the other side of a grass divider strip about 40 feet wide.?ÿ The references from the seven prior excavations by others got us to within about 0.2 of the actual location.?ÿ Roughly one-quarter of the references were still in existence.?ÿ 65 mph zone, which means 70+ average vehicle velocity.?ÿ Surface was baby-butt smooth from recent overlay, so no visual clues to guide us.?ÿ One forgets about the ambient temperature in such working conditions. Two hard workers spent an hour and a quarter recovering that cap.?ÿ Taking the shot was a piece of cake thanks to an atypical stretch of more than three minutes with no northbound traffic.?ÿ A single operator would be insane to attempt this.


 
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Mr cow,

I want to buy a gas powered jackhammer. I see cheap ones on eBay for 400$. I also could use a rotary hammer drill to set corners in difficult places. Have you got one?

N

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@nate-the-surveyor?ÿ

No and yes.?ÿ The drill came in very handy in creating the rectangle to be removed.?ÿ A sharp two-foot chisel helped slice between the holes.?ÿ Still took at least 45 trips out and back.


 
Posted : March 6, 2022 12:35 pm
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@stlsurveyor?ÿ

We're not there yet. I'm new.?ÿ

Sunday mornings are busy too with the wreckage from the Saturday night shootings drag races DWI high speed chases etc.

The most disconcerting thing is seeing the 2 1/4"square steel tubing used for inserts of 2" square steel tubing and then nearly every single extruded v channel dilineator posts they flattened or sheared off because the entire median system is fairly new and impedes their reptile brain stem memories of how they used to get across to the other side....

Only about 6k feet left, and oh goodie, snow this week will be keeping me out of the way.

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@holy-cow?ÿ

I agree. I should be partnered up, tis what it tis at my place at the moment.

For the work you're describing, the DOT required lane closure for the safety plan is either too time consuming or too expensive. Both wrong answers, and point to cultural issues I'm not likely to change nor attempt.?ÿ I'm glad your guys were ok, and kudos on grabbing the piece of the puzzle you needed.

Maybe the NSPS and state boards can work on actually making the work safer and punishment handed out for destroying or making monuments inaccessible mean something in money so they will stop.?ÿ Kumbaya....?ÿ


 
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