under the category of hmmmmmm.......
It seems now that statutory exemptions from subdivision and zoning regulations are now actually exempt...........
Not sure what happened, but someone must have made a "reasoned" argument with the powers that be........
Anyway, I no longer have to turn in my plat to the regulators to review and have my client charged large amounts for the privilege.
MightyMoe, post: 363772, member: 700 wrote: under the category of hmmmmmm.......
It seems now that statutory exemptions from subdivision and zoning regulations are now actually exempt...........
Not sure what happened, but someone must have made a "reasoned" argument with the powers that be........
Anyway, I no longer have to turn in my plat to the regulators to review and have my client charged large amounts for the privilege.
That's interesting -we just had a client pay $42,000 for a rezoning plat review...
Really? For just the review?
WOW!!
It's difficult to get that done here, rezoning is a very sensitive subject
MightyMoe, post: 363789, member: 700 wrote: Really? For just the review?
WOW!!
It's difficult to get that done here, rezoning is a very sensitive subject
Sensitive and expensive. Have another client who is attempting to rezone a å±1.25-acre parcel so he can split it in half. All of the property in the area is zoned 1-acre minimum, but there are vitually no parcels that are much larger than 0.9 acre, and some as small as 7K s.f. Has to go throught the Board of Adjustment and then be approved by the County Board of Supervisors. Every submittal has required forms, maps and fees. It is quite obvious that the County mis-zoned the whole area, but each individual property owner has to pay to have it rectified...
Jim in AZ, post: 363792, member: 249 wrote: Sensitive and expensive. Have another client who is attempting to rezone a å±1.25-acre parcel so he can split it in half. All of the property in the area is zoned 1-acre minimum, but there are vitually no parcels that are much larger than 0.9 acre, and some as small as 7K s.f. Has to go throught the Board of Adjustment and then be approved by the County Board of Supervisors. Every submittal has required forms, maps and fees. It is quite obvious that the County mis-zoned the whole area, but each individual property owner has to pay to have it rectified...
Is it worth it for him?
He must really, really want to do it
Zoning, especially minimum lot sizes, is evil.
Zoning has contributed to the wasteful ways our Cities are set up.
Dave Karoly, post: 363794, member: 94 wrote: Zoning, especially minimum lot sizes, is evil.
IMHO - Euclidean zoning is evil; formed based...not so much
James Fleming, post: 363800, member: 136 wrote: IMHO - Euclidean zoning is evil; formed based...not so much
That makes a lot more sense.
James Fleming, post: 363800, member: 136 wrote: IMHO - Euclidean zoning is evil; formed based...not so much
"Form-based codes address the relationship between building facades and the public realm, the form and mass of buildings in relation to one another, and the scale and types of streets and blocks."
Sounds good in theory, and we have that here, but our City just allowed a 5-story student housing project next door and across the street fron single-story homes. The "form and mass" of the two could hardly be more different!
It's been my experience money determines zoning. B-)
FL/GA PLS., post: 363810, member: 379 wrote: It's been my experience money determines zoning. B-)
Money may not make the world go around, but it damn sure greases the skids!
There was a county that resisted zoning for a long time, one of the reasons they finally adopted it was similar to why it was adopted here: to clean up messy properties.............
Now they have zoning and they seem to be fighting all the time over land issues and if anything messy properties have increased, not decreased;
One of my "favorites":
I get to drive by that every now an again:-(
If you try to rezone around here, all you get is big signs in everyone's front yard with a big goofy logo protesting the zoning change.
I think zoning would work if individual land owners within a zoned municipality were required to attend one Board of Adjustment meeting per year. Experiencing the baffoonery first hand is a sure fire way to get people to vote out Selectmen or put pressure on them to explain the spirit of the zoning laws to the Planners they hire.
This is similar to our country's problem with prosecuting attorneys being able to pile myriad frivolous charges on a defendant and facing no repercussions when they're mostly tossed out, in that it only affects those that cannot afford to hire expert attorneys. Members of the BOA have experienced cases remanded back to them when a sophisticated party runs a cost analysis and determines it is worth the effort. I am not an advocate for penalizing success, but I do think that a municipality should have the ability to incur no liabilities for non enforcement or liberal interpretation of laws whenthey are being applied to long established residents.
In the Virgin Islands, zoning changes are decided by the Legislature.
A few years ago, a stateside developer wanted a change to allow a few more units to be added to a condo project that was already much denser than anything else on the island and had big problems with access and utilities. For the public meeting, the developer had 2 retired senators hired as consultants. All the construction workers got the day off with pay if they would attend the meeting and show support. They packed the meeting room so no opposition could get in. Another retired senator threatened a legal challenge and got opposition to be allowed to go in one at a time to testify against. Loudspeakers were set up so those outside could hear. Of the 50 or so speakers, not a single person supported the change that wasn't getting paid by the developer. Even the local Dept. of Planning that is usually pro development was opposed.
The senators voted 14 to 1 to approve. Bribery?
I been at ZBA meetings where the person before me gets a variance in 5 minutes for frontage so the can subdivide with no show of hardship. Then I get up and battle for 2 hours to allow for a septic system to be constructed when SHWT is at 20" and the town requires 24" on an existing lot with substandard system. Local politics is well strong when it comes to application of zoning.
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Zoning should be outlawed in the first place.
