woman surveyors?

Not too many out there, I know 3-4 in Oregon, there are probably others too, not sure about your other questions.

SHG

I know only one here in Tasmania (population <500,000).
She had a full time job with a firm. Not sure whether she is still employed.

I guess it would depend on the person wanting a surveyor, but sadly I could imagine some would say something like ' Oh, didn't know I was getting a woman'.

I have had a couple of female chainmen as they are called here and couldn't fault them.
One smoked and she would stand there, (Oh it doesn't like that word -f ag for some reason. It means cigarette here) in hand and her hand would shake that much the movement would just about keep her cigarette(f ag) lit up and puffing.
I wondered how on earth she would keep the prism pole steady.
Once her hand clamped around the pole she was rock solid, and I have never seen a
pole kept so plumb and steady ever or since.

Why do you ask? I imagine it is predominantly a male domain that has taken some breaking into.

Maybe someone can enlighten me on the prohibited use of the word please. No offences meant.
A very common phrase here is 'I'm dieing for a f ag'.

The origin of the word is f@ggot as in bundle of sticks, as in kindling, the type of small bit of wood used to start a fire.

Back in the day when they burned witches at the stake and whatnot they also burned homosexuals, hence the slur f@ggot for gay men.

Looking at the derivation of the term exposes the true hate behind it more than any other slur that I can think of.

In regards to censored words, I feel that my post is in the spirit of putting down the bigotry associated with hate speech and should get a pass.

I live with a woman surveyor, have met maybe 5 others and know of one woman owned shop in the area.

Welcome to the site Belle, you are not alone.

There are women on here, somewhere.

Hired a lady in the mid 80's. She was a good helper and liked the work, except she left because she had to drive over an hour to get to work.

As far as I know there are ladies in the survey classes at TJC every year.

B-)

There is no part of my job that a woman can't do.

Why so few women? That is a different thread.

> Hired a lady in the mid 80's.

Smile
That's even older than my senior PLS

> In regards to censored words, I feel that my post is in the spirit of putting down the bigotry associated with hate speech and should get a pass.

No problem.... Carry on. :-$

thanks
I don't think the word is seen in that light here.

Australia is fully aware of the bigotry etc about peoples views and their expression of.
Many words or expressions are not to be used these days, but as mentioned its still used freely as a term for a cigarette. 'Got a ... mate?' is often a way strangers greet others.
So when DownUnder and someone asks you if you have a ... then please don't take offense.
Mind you, smoking is even under intense scrutiny here and the tobacco companies are in a fight with the Government.

So come on Women Surveyors.
Do what you do best and if its surveying then well and very good.
We can only be better for it.

There have been 2 women presidents of the New York State Association of Professional Land Surveyors (NYSAPLS) - both are principals of respected firms; there have been a few more at the NYSAPLS Board of Directors' meetings. I know of a successful local firm that has been run by a woman for years; several local firms have female surveyors working there. While still not common, there is no reason a woman cannot be a land surveyor.

The Surveying program at TJC is run by a woman, Ms. Williams.

My business partner is a woman. I hired her in about 1984 and now she owns half of the business. She has been licensed for about 20 years.

The first survey crew I worked on in 1972 had a woman on it.

In my opinion the fact that we haven't been able to attract more women has hurt the profession.

Worked one time with a gal who was good, worked as hard any guy I've worked with. The only awkward moment was at the end of the day when she asked me to feel around the inside of her bra straps, cause that's where the ticks like to go. I obliged, and expected my wife to pop up at that moment.:-O

I think women have an excellent chance of being hired. My last party chief was a woman and she was a valuable employee. The vast majority of women though would not like the field work here. Ticks, spiders, snakes, chiggers and gators are not things most women want to see on a daily basis. It takes a unique woman to like this profession but I think their prospects are very good.

I Can Name 4 Female Surveyors

Not counting the few posters on this and other boards.

Two I know are very active, one of whom teaches seminars.

One I know is an PE that went back for a BS Surveying, but is not active.

The fourth I know from PSLS, works for a DOT, so her active survey work is unknown to me.

Guesstimate is 1-2%.

I know only one female PE active doing soil testing and septics and another one doing wetlands.

So let us search for where surveyors come from. At the experience end are field crew; rodwomen, instrumentwoman, party chief (what's that) or one woman robotic crews. If they are or were there it is in considerably lower numbers than at the licenced level. Few women would tolerate being one on one, responsible to or responsible for, some of the characters I have seen in that field.

The other source is education, women are under represented at the college level in technical/math programs. Women are under represented at the college level in outdoor programs. Surveying is a convergence of both under represented levels. A small amount of a small amount is a very small amount. College surveying classes are small and given the overall statistics a female could be the only female in the program. That is a pressure outside the realm of surveying but it may be sufficient to alter the final decision, stay or go.

Some people get into professions based on role models, give me one female role model in surveying. Not on Mount Rushmore to be sure. I have seen very very few on the faculty level at college survey programs and have never researched what courses they might be teaching. NJIT had one female faculty member that handled geology, photogrammetry and GIS. She was also doing some oceanographic research. But are there any women on the front line of combat at colleges?

Paul in PA

I Can Name 4 Female Surveyors

Hey folks, Thx for the replies. I found myself on this site due to my own reasons. I hv to start somewhere n really would like to get involved in surveying. My fiance has been surveying for yrs and even has tried getting me on w him so he can train me. But to no luck. I've been told women done belong in the field and that I couldn't handle it. Well I guess the only man that stands behind me 100% is my dad. He said I'm one of the hardest working women he's ever seen. I've did a lot of hard work in my time. My fiance has faith, but also thinks id not stick w it. I've had phone interviews set up, but once they're hear my voice its cut short and told they would call back if position opens up or my skills was in need.

I'm frustrated. I'm not the type of woman who wants to sit behind a deal. I hv an associates in business and clerical work. Realized that's not what I wanted I went to nursing school. Even signed up for combat medic, but became pregnant and didn't do my final swearing in w the army. I believe if I can get that training as rodman under my belt id hv better chance of being accepted, but hoe do I do that when not even given the chance?

I Can Name 4 Female Surveyors

Pls excuse typos. Using a phone here and it don't stand being their name "smartphone" lol

Kinda related story.

When I was a single man, I used to take my girlfriends surveying. I took one in particular on a cold and windy February day about a 2 hour drive to a mountain community to do a topo of an active landfill.
Frozen cold, windy and kinda smelly day, not ideal conditions by any means.

She was in great spirits the whole day, not a complaint or frown one.

I married that gal. Been happily married for 10 years now. with 2 junior surveyors in training to show for it. My 8 year old daughter is showing real interest in it.

I Can Name 4 Female Surveyors

Last year, in Washington, the surveyor of the year was Amanda Askren and the associate of the year was Desi Schilling. Amanda is the head of the conference committee and Desi is now licensed.

I also know a company that is owned by 2 women and they are doing very well. My sons wife worked for me, part time, when I had the work. She was a good hand and would've liked to have kept her on.

Nobody says it's going to be easy; perseverance, determination, these are the things that will get you what you want. You will miss 100% of the shots you do not take.

Radar

And see, outside work I love. I had much rather be spreading dirt, planting grass, pulling up weeds, mowing, raking cutting dead limbs than house work anyday. I enjoy being outside and hv a feel completed and accomplishd work.

I'm from a small 1 red light town deep in the south of Louisiana. I grew up between a bayou and a spill way. At a young age if I wasn't snake hunting w a tater sack, Friday hunting fm a boat, gater hunting off a cypress knee, deer hunting, squirrel hunting, rabit hunting, coon trapping, fishing, craw dad grabbing or even using my imagination and tearing down old mowers for trailers then I was n a lil yellow dress 4 times a month for church. I was a all out Tom boy. Ik all to well what hard work is about. My family was very poor and mom disabeled. Many times our water was shut off and it was up to me to tend to garden or bring up buckets of water from the canal to boil and cook with or bathe in. And I had a younger sister to help tend to.

So when I'm told I don't belong in a mans field of work it strikes a rage inside of me. Cause I know all to well that I've worked harder in my pinky than most men have. This is why I posted this forum. Surveying is something I want. But also something at a long distance, unless I know someone willing to gv me that chance.....