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(@jeff-d-opperman)
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Y'all might recall this picture from the Witch of the Day topic from a couple of weeks ago, where we used divining rods (fancy name for 2 pin flag wires with a 90 degree handle bend)to help locate an abandoned oil well. Today the oil company called and said that the backhoe operator found the well exactly where we "found" it. The well casing had been cut off 9 feet deep below the surface. Sometimes, you just get lucky...

 
Posted : February 3, 2011 9:58 am
(@bill93)
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Did you try a Schonestedt for comparison? That's pretty deep but a long vertical pipe would have a strong signature, even if it was hard to find the center of it.

 
Posted : February 3, 2011 10:13 am
(@kris-morgan)
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Some folks will not believe it, but we do it all the time. We located utilities at the farm the same way when we built the fence and laid new water lines. Ive located more than one pipeline and casing just like that.

Good one jeff.

 
Posted : February 3, 2011 10:19 am
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Some can accept the fact that witching works. Others who don't have any experience with it and base their opinion on what others have said can't accept gracefully that it works and tend to mock those who have either seen it used successfully or have done it themselves. Glad that the well was proven to be where you had located it with your steel wire, I use brass brazing rods myself, probably because I usually have them around and that is what I have seen others use, have seen willow forks used but I never tried them.
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Posted : February 3, 2011 10:29 am
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Notice that I did say "help to locate"... the pad was about a 3 acre site that had been abandoned 25 years earlier. I used a GArmin 60CSX handheld GPS to stake out a roughly 25'x 25' area based upon the lat/long from the old permit plat and the SubSurface locator picked up the very strong signature within the staked area, but would not narrow down the search due to the large magnetic signature. It was the divining rods that narrowed it down to about a 5 foot circle. So in reality, I used several different items to help with the locate. The one person there that day who had seen the old well 25 years earlier was fairly certain that it was about 50 feet from where we located it, so we searched almost the entire area with the SubSurface locator and divining rods, but only got the one real hit that turned out to be it.

 
Posted : February 3, 2011 10:47 am
(@rich-leu)
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You should go after the $1,000,000 offered by James Randi.

 
Posted : February 3, 2011 10:52 am
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I think that is for folks that claim that they have paranormal powers - heck, I just wish I had normal powers anymore. I really think the "science" behind the witching rods is the same as the "science" behind the compass, the dip needle or the magnetic locator, the ability to "read" or be affected by the earth's magnetic waves or by the disruption of the earth's magnetic waves. But I would take the $1,000,000 just in case they needed to give it to someone...

 
Posted : February 3, 2011 11:22 am
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I've seen my brother-in-law and mother-in-law do it. My wife tried it with some success. I went over the same ground with absolutely zip nada response.

 
Posted : February 3, 2011 11:36 am
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It works and I've done it many times with great success. It just depends on what you are looking for I think.

 
Posted : February 3, 2011 11:56 am
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I was totally skeptical until a co-worker talked me into trying it. We used brass rods but I'm not sure it makes much difference. I walked across the parking lot and the rods crossed right over the storm drain line. It could be that your mind processes little clues that you are not consciously aware of and causes you to cross the rods rather than some magnetic process, I don't know. Has anybody tried somehow rigging up some rods to a non-human, non-metallic buggy of some kind and see if the rods find anything that way? If it's just magnetism working on the rods, it should work without the human being involved.

 
Posted : February 3, 2011 11:57 am
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A few weeks ago the city had the utilies behind my housed marked up so they could do some sewer line work. So, I took the opportunity to show my 10 year old son how how you can use witching rods to locate utilities. I grabbed a couple of pin flags, put a 90º bend on one end, showed him how to spin them in your hands to charge them and then how to hold them. He ended up spending a hour walking around the neighboring houses in search of utilities and showing the neighborhood kids the trick.

 
Posted : February 3, 2011 12:04 pm
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Steve

I was also skeptical, so I drilled very small holes in the tops of Dr. Pepper bottles and set the pin flags in the holes and just held the bottles.

Crossed every time.

I don't use that method now cause I generally don't have the bottles with me, but it will pick up anything with a magnetic signature, like plastic water lines with flow (this is key) storm drains with RCP, clay pipe sewer (this is dicey depending on depth and amount of flow), buried cable, pipelines, etc.

Not a machine, but close enough.

 
Posted : February 3, 2011 12:13 pm
(@boundary-lines)
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Steve

> I was also skeptical, so I drilled very small holes in the tops of Dr. Pepper bottles and set the pin flags in the holes and just held the bottles.
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> Crossed every time.
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> I don't use that method now cause I generally don't have the bottles with me, but it will pick up anything with a magnetic signature, like plastic water lines with flow (this is key) storm drains with RCP, clay pipe sewer (this is dicey depending on depth and amount of flow), buried cable, pipelines, etc.
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> Not a machine, but close enough.

I tried it 25 years ago with copper wire and two thread rolls, it worked pretty ok.

 
Posted : February 3, 2011 12:26 pm
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My grandpa showed me the coke bottle and wire hanger method when I was a teenage. The rods will cross own their own without any influence from the experiementer effect, as far as I can tell. I have no idea if this is meaningful or not. It should be easy enough to test.

 
Posted : February 3, 2011 12:30 pm
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Kris

That's close to what I was talking about and I'm not saying I don't believe in it but since you were still holding the bottles, you could subliminally be tilting them slightly to make the rods cross couldn't you? Maybe just a cardboard box on some rollers with the rods stuck in the top and then wheel it across the area and see if it still works.

I watched a Nova program last night on how the brain works and it reminded me how a person can believe they're seeing or experiencing something that's not really happening.

 
Posted : February 3, 2011 12:32 pm
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Steve

I bet you could figure something out in your garage and test it all in about an hour.

I mean, a skate board with a 2x6 with two coke bottles and pin flags all being drug by a piece of rope across the concrete drive to see where the underground utils are.

 
Posted : February 3, 2011 12:35 pm
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Steve

There you go; let me know how it turns out.

 
Posted : February 3, 2011 12:36 pm
(@kris-morgan)
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Steve

LOL! I know how it turns out. I'm not the skeptical one! 🙂

You let me know!

 
Posted : February 3, 2011 12:38 pm
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Steve

I don't have a skateboard. I guess it will have to remain a mystery.

 
Posted : February 3, 2011 12:57 pm
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ROFLMAO!!

 
Posted : February 3, 2011 2:00 pm
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