As I look at it:
I bought LOCUS receivers. I have 6. They are labeled Sokkia, but they are an ASHTECH product, which was Javad Ashjee.
I bought a LEGACY E Topcon system. It is a JAVAD product, with yellow Topcon labels.
The current Topcons were a by product, or grandchild of technology developed by Javad.
As we near the end of the year, and we are facing the radio upgrades, well, it seems like a good time to buy some new gear. So, It is good to look at options.
Anybody using the JAVAD data collectors, and or receivers?
Just asking.
Nate
We have sold the Javad Triumph receivers since 2008. If you message me your contact information I would be happy to contact you and put you in touch with many of our customers that own them.
One of the things that bothers me about the "off" brands is that they don't connect to TDS (at least, Javad is not an option on TDS 4.8 (not sure about 5.1)). To me, it's important to unplug from the RTK, and plug into the robot, and keep on going. It seems really inefficient to have to switch DCs when switching from RTK to Total Station, and vise versa.
But I'm not a fan of Javad, even though I also use the Locus and Topcon offshoots of Javad. People who use Javad think they are the best, and I also like that you can order directly from his website, with all the pricing upfront.
I purchased two Javad Triumphs in the last month, both with the Verizon CDMA internal modem option, and they work just fine. I am working with Javad setting up a routine where we can set a base and with a couple of keystrokes on the Carlson Surveyor Plus start transmitting corrections to a dedicated server from which any of our rovers can get corrections. Time will tell but so far we are real happy with both the equipment and support from Javad. One of the big pluses about Javad is the free Nethub software that can be used as a server for corrections, if you use Leica you would need to purchase the Spider Software and Trimble has a base station software for purchase also.
> One of the things that bothers me about the "off" brands is that they don't connect to TDS (at least, Javad is not an option on TDS 4.8 (not sure about 5.1)). To me, it's important to unplug from the RTK, and plug into the robot, and keep on going. It seems really inefficient to have to switch DCs when switching from RTK to Total Station, and vise versa.
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> But I'm not a fan of Javad, even though I also use the Locus and Topcon offshoots of Javad. People who use Javad think they are the best, and I also like that you can order directly from his website, with all the pricing upfront.
I had to give up on TDS many moons ago.:-( Now we are trimble products all around but I've used many topcon products and the Locus units with great success in the past. I think Javad's goal has always been to put out the best product that technologies will allow, and I'd have no problem with looking at his new products if I was in that position.
Wow. So nobody using his rtk software yet?
That's interesting.
N
Nate. I got three units the delta for my private cors station and 2 Triumphs base/rover any combo. You will not be sorry. Great little units!
Using Field genius for data collection. I looked at his software but decided on something that seemed more advanced because I didn't like his controller. His will do things that FG can't.
I looked over the FG series, and the demo guy could not get it to do SIMPLE stuff. Probably should look again, at them.
N
I just upgraded to HIPER II , and real happy . I looked at Javad but I did see too much in the way of dealer support around the southeast or USA.
I am real happy where these things will fix !
Local support comes in the form of Netview & Teamviewer (both free). Start Netview and connect your GPS to your computer. Teamviewer allows direct access to Javad Support to your GPS. Then they can trouble-shoot, check & modify a large number of settings.
Seems pretty innovative AND probably better than most dealer and manufacture support, just NOT what we as users are as comfortable with. I will have to say having a Javad engineer seeing exactly what you are seeing is probably going to get to the root of any issues pretty quickly.
SHG
I agree , just not much info on it. Also big purchases need a demo period and a little prodding, thats what the local dealers do. After that the equipment sells its self.
Javad send me some units and I will start pushing them in North and South Carolina .
And, nobody in USA doing the "Umbrella" thing with 4 receivers on the pole?
N
No Javad here but I just bought the Base/Rover Hiper II's this spring
and am blown away with where they will fix. Using FieldGenius/Nautiz as the
controller .. just unplug and go to the total station. I too was worried
about support with Javad.
I bet you are blown away with where they will fix. Fixed does not mean CORRECT, but that it THINKS it is correct.
Nate's recipe for shooting marginal shots:
Now, Move over 6', re-initilize, and shoot again, compass and tape between them, and now you have 2 independent shots, with different multi-path environment, that should agree within 0.08-.12' AND if they don't, now you see reality. If one is bad, you now have to shoot a 3rd pt, to see which one is good.
They will all lie to you, when conditions are right.
Nate
You mean there not always correct ? Seriously I also did a Static session while getting RTK info . Worst was .04' different after post process . Still impressed.
We run Javad Triumph 1's. We have 10 Javad heads and a few Trimble's. We don't use Javad software for the collectors though- we like Carlson SurvCE. Like I've said before, the last crew in gets 'stuck with' the Trimble R8-3.
For 10 G's a head, you can't go wrong.
Thanks. If I can get a Carlson Supervisor, and actually like it, I think I will do that. The data collector right now is in it's infancy.
N
I've been very impressed with Javad's offerings, and availability of representatives to answer questions about their products. I would expect that post-sale support would be on par with what I've experienced pre-sale, but I haven't bought anything YET. If I was going to buy new equipment, I'd take a serious look at what Javad has available.
> One of the things that bothers me about the "off" brands is that they don't connect to TDS
I think that's more a function of the fact that TDS (now, the Trimble umbrella) doesn't support the off brands. TDS plays well with Nikon, Trimble, etc. but they play hard ball with the competition.
For value, I'd prefer to invest my limited resources on components which are designed to be more or less universally compatible, rather than having to CHOOSE A BRAND, and stick with it come hell or high water....
For example, regarding data collection, I think Carlson's model is preferable to TDS. Give me a year or so to test it out, I'm making the migration now.