Little Red Book
> Looks the same as mine, EXCEPT yours is in MUCH better condition!
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> Not sure how many miles my little Red Book has on it, but it's got to be quite a few.
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> Of course the HP-35/45 had something to do with it's retirement from field duty.
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> Loyal
Yes, it appears this copy spent most of its life in some surveyors library. It even has a library card inside of the front cover.
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Loyal:
I have one that has a brown cover, Sixth Edition, dated 1942. Also have several of the 1956 that have never been used, i.e., had the cover opened. I have one that is pretty ratty, carried it in my back pocket for many miles of chaining and running line.
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Charles;
Hmmm, that jogs my memory a little (maybe).
Is your "brown" Sixth Edition a dark tan / light brown by chance?
It seems like maybe I have seen one of those somewhere.
Then again, I might be having [another] senior moment.
Loyal
Little Red Book
Loyal:
I'll see if I can get a picture of my old Red Book with all the miles on it, the 1942, and one of the new ones and post them.
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I just found a brand new Red Book, EIGHTH EDITION 1956.
Never been used.
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> Charles;
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> Hmmm, that jogs my memory a little (maybe).
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> Is your "brown" Sixth Edition a dark tan / light brown by chance?
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> It seems like maybe I have seen one of those somewhere.
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> Then again, I might be having [another] senior moment.
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> Loyal
I guess the 1942 is more dark tan than light brown, but could be considered light brown I guess. I tried to do all 3 books, but they were over the allowed limit to post an image, so can only do the two.
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WOW...that tan/brown edition is very cool!
The "red" version looks just like mine (high mileage).
Loyal
August, 1972
3 months out of High School
BLM sent me to Cave Junction, OR - to date the toughest area for surveying I have ever worked.
Gurley 1' Transit, 5 chain tape, brush hook and of course the Red Book.
Some of my best surveying memories were the 6 years I worked for BLM
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The 1942 Tables came with an old Ainsworth Solar Transit I purchased from Albert Bartlett in 1973. He was an old surveyor/mineral surveyor out of Cheyenne that operated in the early 1900's up to close to the time I bought the transit.
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I'd love to have one of those on my book shelves. I will have to start a quest to find one for an addition to my library
> I still have my Red Book, but I have Logarithmic charts (secants, versed sines) taped in the front and I can't see the date of publication of the book?
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> And of course on the inside of the front cover is a cartoon of an instrument man bent over, pants down, hands on the ground with a transit on top of his rear, and a plumb bob hanging from his "part". The caption is "I'll bet next time you won't forget that god----ed tripod".
In the Little Red Book, did those traverse tables get used very much. It lists the Latitudes and Departures for Distances 1 to 100 in quarter degree increments from 0 to 90 degrees. I guess you would just apply the appropriate positive or negative sign to your latitudes and departures depending on your bearing quadrant.
August 11, 1975; staking grading at Boystown in Omaha Nebraska. Zeke, Arden and me used a Wild T1A, 50' cloth tape (no reel, you wove it like a figure 8 on your hand), a lenker rod and wild level. A few weeks later we got out a Philly Rod and I was like; why the heck do you want to use that, when you have the lenker?
The company was TD2; they ran 7 crews (most of the time). They had an HP3800 that they had just purchased, 3 or 4 of the crews fought for it every day.
Radar
> > I still have my Red Book, but I have Logarithmic charts (secants, versed sines) taped in the front and I can't see the date of publication of the book?
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> > And of course on the inside of the front cover is a cartoon of an instrument man bent over, pants down, hands on the ground with a transit on top of his rear, and a plumb bob hanging from his "part". The caption is "I'll bet next time you won't forget that god----ed tripod".
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> In the Little Red Book, did those traverse tables get used very much. It lists the Latitudes and Departures for Distances 1 to 100 in quarter degree increments from 0 to 90 degrees. I guess you would just apply the appropriate positive or negative sign to your latitudes and departures depending on your bearing quadrant.
You could use the traverse tables to correct up slope chaining to horizontal as well as doing traverses. Direct readout up to 100' in 100ths and in 10ths over 100' using 10' increments i.e., 110'-120'- 200'-290', etc., and was compatible with either feet or chains. Gave the corrected slope distance/difference in elevation for chaining using a clino reading for angle to the nearest 1/4°. Chained many miles of line with a 300' tape, clino, and the Red Book. Bearing Quadrant did not come into play as all corrected Lats and Deps were right in the book. All you needed to do was to keep track of angles right, left as you moved along.
When I worked for the Bureau of Reclamation breaking down sections for Glendo Reservoir boundary in the 1960's, I later had the opportunity in 1985 to check a ¼ mile of line I had measured with the 300' tape, a plumb bob on each end with the tape held waist high, and clino angles with my HP3810A and checked the slope chain corrected measurement within 0.05', which I thought was pretty good chaining results in the 1960's.
The rear chairman, who was keeping notes, used the traverse table to get the actual horizontal distance. For instance, he would use his clinometer to view the vertical angle between him and the front chairman and if that angle read 7 degrees and the front chairman stuck a pin at the full 8 chains, (actually the rear chairman was holding the end of the 8 chain) the rear chairman, note keeper would look in the traverse table and at 7 degrees and 80; he would keep the 7.940 in the column with the continuing distances added up.
Consequently, the note keeper had a running total and the crew then could look for the corner at 40 chains, or thereabout.
I should add that the 8.00 notation and the 7 degrees was noted first and then looked in the red book for the true distance.
1970 - K E transit, 200' tape, trig tables, curta's and all the usual stuff. For the USFS Mt Hood, Oregon.
1979... K&E Transit... 100' chain
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you...
> 1992 Topcon GTS 3B My boss used the plumb bob hanger under the tripod to set up. Then I took an intro to surveying class in Peoria and recall being amazed that you could setup quicker and better by using the optical plummet. Can't recall who that guy was that taught the class, but he really opened my eyes to the value of education. Thank you, whoever you are. I'm so glad I'm not that guy that got One year of training Twenty times over.
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Well I had the luxury of an SDR33 and a topcon total station, but also an old timer who showed me how to do it with pencil and paper. Saved me from being a button pusher. He's retired now, but I still talk to him, I learned stuff you can't from a book.
1977, Upstate New York
Wild RDS Theodolite, 200' steel tape, TI calculator with trig and 10 memory location
3 man crew, $1.10 per day lunch allowance.
Early 1970's. I was in High School and a neighbor's friend needed part time help on the weekends during the school year. K&E Transit and 100' tape.