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Subtitled " Look at the Dimple on this Baby!!!"
at first they just look like pipes with deformed tops from driving but not so.
Anyway we found three of these- 2 at the r/w at the PT of a simple curve and 1 at the R/W at the PC. A previous survey described them as "3/4" smooth iron pin no cap"

The shaft is 7/8" or 1" - we'll mic them when we go back for double ties (and to saw out the sky on one side) the "cap" is about 1.25" and the dimple is 3/8" dia. and 1/4" deep. There is a crimp-like mark where the cap connects to the shaft. I was trying to decide if it was some kind of copper-weld or something but it appeared to just be iron. I don't think they are the original r/w pins, other places along the route we are finding 4" square conc. RW markers.

I'm thinking late 50's mybe 60s time frame-

apologies in advance for the poor quality of the pictures. we'll take new ones of those with a real camera later also.

M

 
Posted : August 27, 2013 3:45 pm
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Heavy duty curtain rod

Dig it up and find the same thing on the other end.

 
Posted : August 27, 2013 3:55 pm
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Heavy duty curtain rod

is that experience talking or speculation?

I'll have the guys dig one up and spec it out. I'm not sure that we're all dialed in on this curve yet. It's about 20+ feet long in 1600' - that's a bit much- Currently looking for some transit notes too, to get a better look for some poc's

 
Posted : August 27, 2013 4:43 pm
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Heavy duty curtain rod

Could it be a deformed pipe , from being driven in the ground . Ive seen quit a few pipe deform when hammering in tough ground or a rock at the bottom side.

 
Posted : August 27, 2013 4:45 pm
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> The shaft is 7/8" or 1" - we'll mic them when we go back for double ties (and to saw out the sky on one side) the "cap" is about 1.25" and the dimple is 3/8" dia. and 1/4" deep. There is a crimp-like mark where the cap connects to the shaft.

Is that boiler pipe as in from a steam engine or some other sort of thick-wall pipe that might be used in a smelter?

 
Posted : August 27, 2013 4:58 pm
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My edgykadid guess is a pushrod from an old single cylinder derrick jack engine. Hercules and Atlas were a couple of the manufacturers. They ran on diesel, natural gas, condensed (drip) natural gas, chicken crap and coal-oil.

The valve-rocker rode in the pivot hole. I bet if you dug it up you might find a clevis on the other end where it was attached to a cammed concentric.

From the diameter of the rod it was probably a bigger engine than the pic.

Are you around an old gas or oil field?

 
Posted : August 27, 2013 8:42 pm
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3/8" dimple? Way too big!!!! If you accept this monument, you are gonna have to put a dimple in the dimple.

 
Posted : August 28, 2013 11:00 am
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Well- I whipped out the trusty "McMillans"

an yanked it out (after setting straddles of course) and here are the new pics and facts.

It is a solid pin-
the point appeared to have been just cut off with a cutting torch.

shaft diam. .75 in.
top diam. 1.25 in.
dimple 0.25 in.

 
Posted : August 28, 2013 8:55 pm
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Well- I whipped out the trusty "McMillans"

Looks like Paden was correct. They cut the shaft to a reasonable length and made it pointed.

 
Posted : August 29, 2013 12:38 am
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Well- I whipped out the trusty "McMillans"

That's a pretty good possibility. There were plenty of sawmills and logging ops in the area the may haveusex that engine.

 
Posted : August 29, 2013 7:49 am
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Well- I whipped out the trusty "McMillans"

*have used NOT haveusex :-$

 
Posted : August 29, 2013 9:34 am
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Well- I whipped out the trusty "McMillans"

I thought it looked like a curtain rod...

 
Posted : August 29, 2013 10:21 am
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Actually, I don't worry about dimples anymore. I just drive a lath as close to the pin as I can and shoot it reflectorless and drive on! The monument itself is really all that's important so if I call for that, the measurements don't matter. Think how much faster I'll be able to work!!! Jobs will be cheaper not wasting time with redundant measurements- (clients wont pay for a any surveyor who wastes time being precise) and best of all no one will accuse me of being an "expert measurer"! 😛

 
Posted : August 29, 2013 12:07 pm
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Well- I whipped out the trusty "McMillans"

>haveusex :-$

Does that have anything to do with twerking?

 
Posted : August 29, 2013 12:11 pm