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(@carl-b-correll)
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> Sarcasm on! You say you closed your traverse 1:100k? According to the posts I read the other day this doesn't mean crap. I'd rerun my traverse and make sure that pin you report as being out 0.20' isn't actually only out 0.18'. Sarcasm off!

5/8" Rods... I'll just move the tip of the pole over just a skosh. How's that?

😉 🙂

 
Posted : July 17, 2012 5:27 pm
(@spledeus)
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or you can pull it
if there is a tag on it return it
if not send it to don (foggyidea)

 
Posted : July 17, 2012 5:46 pm
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Your Deed May Be Straght, But The Line May Not Be

What do the two adjacent parcels say and do, and what corners are senior?

You have nor surveyed the neighborhood you may not even have enough for your lot.

Looking at the far corners of 3 & 4 you may well set "E" in the wrong place.

Because you have been held by junior monuments that are 0.04' short you may have to short your client the 0.04' and hold record on the 1-2 and 3-4 lines.

If your lot came out of the totality of the 5 lots can you indeed say the far 3 & 4 corners are wrong? Sorry you must then look to the original adjacent parcels. I say double or triple your field work. The senoir sub beyond 3-4 controls those parcels.

Paul in PA

 
Posted : July 17, 2012 6:59 pm
(@renegade2438)
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Your Deed May Be Straght, But The Line May Not Be

Set your corners, maybe even the POL on the east, then on your plat show the adjoining corners you used to fix/verify your work. That way when someone follows behind you, if they have a copy of your plat, they can recreate what you did.

Move on to the next project.

 
Posted : July 18, 2012 5:04 am
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Your Deed May Be Straght, But The Line May Not Be

Thanks for illuminating the point I asked about Carl. If your parcel was first AND came out of the same parent tract, the line for your tract obviously controls.

We have a few places around here where things are like what you describe.

 
Posted : July 18, 2012 5:41 am
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I'll be the fly in the ointment here. Why are you rejecting the corners shown in blue? There is no "exact" distance a corner is out of position before you should reject it. Were they set by a surveyor? Are they being honored by land owners? Maybe you could look at it from a different prespective, what if you honored the blue corners and rejected the green ones? I do reject found corners sometimes, but its rare and I don't do it lightly. I really find it hard to reject corners set by another surveyor in a situation like yours. If this stuff was done in 1967 I'm not suprised to see some problems with the distances.

 
Posted : July 18, 2012 5:56 am
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I wondered the same thing, but that was off-subject a bit. He made his decision as a licensed surveyor and had a different question.

But I like that you brought that up. I think it would make a good discussion. Also: How would you decide where to put your missing corners. Where and how would you set "C, D, and E"? If you accepted the blue marks, would that effect where "D" goes? Since it's sr/jr rights, would you set "c" at a prorata distance between the green marks, or would you set it on line between the green marks at the called distance? Would "D" go on line between the green marks east and west of it? If so, would that make a kink in the line between D and C? Would you show a former straight line to now be crooked? And/or do you make sure D to C is a straight line going through the accepted green mark?

Are you even going to take the corners not on your subject tract into account at all, since your tract is "senior"? Are you going to utilize some of the aspects of those marks but not all? ie: use one for allignment but not distance?

Just some questions. Maybe it would make a good new thread if Carl wanted to start one. It can be pretty harsh having a lot of surveyors tear up your work. You know, I retrace surveys but don't really know what the last guy did and all his logic behind it. I'm not sure how many surveyors would treat a survey like this exactly the same way as each other.

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Also, if I set corners but not exactly how you would have gone about it, and you came behind me, would you be accepting my corner monuments even if you disagreed with my methodology, if I showed what I did and why? (I mean in general...not discussing a completely neglegent act on my part, like ignoring an original monument or other unquestionable evidence)

 
Posted : July 18, 2012 6:19 am
(@stephen-johnson)
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Assuming my analysis matched yours, in this case I would set that extra monument to try to help preclude future problems.

SJ
B-)

 
Posted : July 19, 2012 8:53 am
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