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(@stacy-carroll)
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Here's a weird shaped one I'm working on. Hope it comes out ok...

Link to PDF: BKR.pdf

 
Posted : August 3, 2010 11:00 am
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BTW, I found another Surveyor's rod 0.07' off line. I DID NOT move it. I actually showed it on line.

 
Posted : August 3, 2010 11:02 am
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> BTW, I found another Surveyor's rod 0.07' off line. I DID NOT move it. I actually showed it on line.

Was that because you weren't certain where the original line was or that you didn't think that your survey was good enough to know with reasonable certainty that the other rebar wasn't on the original line?

 
Posted : August 3, 2010 11:05 am
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Because the difference in opinion was insignificant.

 
Posted : August 3, 2010 11:12 am
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One end of the line was a large cut stone, the other a leaning pipe. 0.07' was pretty good in that circumstance. I'm sure he didn't shoot the stone or pipe in exactly the same spot.

 
Posted : August 3, 2010 11:22 am
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Anyone know how to post this so that it shows up clearer?

 
Posted : August 3, 2010 11:25 am
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> Because the difference in opinion was insignificant.

Well, then it shouldn't have been significant to have honestly reported that the rebar wasn't on the true line, should it? :>

 
Posted : August 3, 2010 12:14 pm
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> One end of the line was a large cut stone, the other a leaning pipe. 0.07' was pretty good in that circumstance. I'm sure he didn't shoot the stone or pipe in exactly the same spot.

Okay, so the circumstance was that you weren't certain where the original line ran because you didn't take the time to figure out where the corners marked by the large cut stone and a disturbed pipe were?

 
Posted : August 3, 2010 12:16 pm
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maybe try attaching it as a linked pdf?

 
Posted : August 3, 2010 12:46 pm
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Yes, you would probably need to upload it somewhere and link to it. Or, if you have an image editor, you could reduce it yourself to 600 pixels and then upload it again. Then the server won't have to reduce it for you and thus, retain the quality with which you uploaded.

Note: I am working on the ability to upload various other file types. 🙂

 
Posted : August 3, 2010 12:47 pm
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I'm working in the Forest; we laugh at 7 hundredths?

I'm following a 1969 Survey. I see 1 to 2 feet in a mile in a Survey of several Sections. It would take years (the trees are 200 feet tall, no GPS) to try to perfectify this meanwhile in the last 40 years large tracts of timber harvest have happened.

If I find a monument that has been used and the trees are blazed then I show it's position per my Survey. Frankly a foot does not matter. It wouldn't change the blazed line trees (typically 3 to 15 feet from line) and the real question is which trees we can cut not which millimeter the monument is away from the line.

 
Posted : August 3, 2010 7:10 pm
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Dave

Only the expert measurer's worry about fingernail distances and maybe rightly so, if you are only resurveying 50 foot lots.

Keith

 
Posted : August 3, 2010 7:15 pm
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How wide was the rebar? Was it leaning? How do you know that some part of the rebar was not online?

In the Mountains of GA, 0.07' offline is considered online. Some part of that rebar will be stradling line. IN the flats of Texas they may drive them straight, but in the foothills, you always have a little lean. This is the boonies, over near Elberton. Pasture land and foothills with an error of closure that allows a relative positional tolerance of 0.50' in rural areas. I think the 0.07' would fall within those constraints.

 
Posted : August 3, 2010 7:19 pm
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Yeah we aren't splitting hairs...

most timber land owners wouldn't waste $100,000 suing their neighbor over 7 hundredths or probably anything less than 5 feet. The timber isn't worth that much.

 
Posted : August 3, 2010 7:23 pm
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I like boundary surveys like that... 🙂

 
Posted : August 3, 2010 7:24 pm
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> Frankly a foot does not matter. It wouldn't change the blazed line trees (typically 3 to 15 feet from line) and the real question is which trees we can cut not which millimeter the monument is away from the line.

Well, it sounds as if the real problem is the work that it would take to actually run the true line and mark it to professional standards instead of just slopping it all in. If, as you say, errors of a foot or two are quite tolerable, presumably corrections of a foot or two are quite tolerable as well. :>

 
Posted : August 3, 2010 10:06 pm
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Do they just round all bearings to the nearest five minutes and give distances to the nearest half a foot there?

 
Posted : August 3, 2010 10:32 pm
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If you want to know GA MTS, I suggest you go to the state mts thread. GA requirements (both plat act and rule 180) are posted there. Texas board may think they need to micromanage you, but GA board actually leaves some things to your discretion as a professional. Below is a link to the thread, leave the Texas MTS while you are there.

[msg=6776]links to MTS by state[/msg]

 
Posted : August 4, 2010 1:56 am
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Can somebody host a PDF of the plat for me?

 
Posted : August 4, 2010 2:47 am
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Kent,
With all due respect, I was elated that there was only 0.07' difference. Many times with older surveys I'm elated with 10'. That would change a few things though - I wouldn't call it on line! 🙂

 
Posted : August 4, 2010 3:09 am
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