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A nearby county seat town has a weird little subdivision called Victory Homes (Don't ask me why because I don't know.)?ÿ It basically consists of 12 lots that are 150 feet north/south and generally 65 feet east/west except for Lot 1 and Lot 12 which are 67.5 feet east/west each.?ÿ Catch number one is that there is no subdivision plat recorded with the county that I can find and I know how to dig for stuff really well in that county.?ÿ I have found three surveys that relate to that sub but are primarily for oddball tracts cut out of a large area to the north.?ÿ In fact, one tract has always been conveyed with Lot 7 in Victory Homes Sub.?ÿ The surveys I have found show a 5-foot easement occupying the north five feet of all 12 lots.?ÿ There is nothing to tell you what is supposed to be using that skinny easement.?ÿ The crazy thing is they also show a 5-foot easement existing in between Lots 6 and 7.?ÿ It is not considered a part of either lot but totally separate.?ÿ That would make it more like a skinny alley if it's not a part of a lot, right?


 
Posted : December 23, 2020 7:01 pm
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Posted by: @holy-cow

a 5-foot easement existing in between Lots 6 and 7.?ÿ It is not considered a part of either lot but totally separate.?ÿ That would make it more like a skinny alley if it's not a part of a lot, right?

If it wasn't dedicated, then it might belong to the developer or heirs.

Does the city/county tax that strip, and if so separately or part of of a lot??ÿ

Does one of the lot owners use that strip as part of their own?

Is that subdivison of WW I or II vintage? That might have something to do with the name.


 
Posted : December 23, 2020 7:32 pm
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Miami County, KS?


 
Posted : December 23, 2020 8:16 pm
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Maybe sounds kind of eerie?


 
Posted : December 23, 2020 8:16 pm
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Posted by: @holy-cow

It basically consists of 12 lots that are 150 feet north/south and generally 65 feet east/west

Those are called Executive Estate Homesites in Fl. (starting at the ridiculously low price of only $699,000)


 
Posted : December 23, 2020 8:25 pm

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@bill93

The tax map shows it as a gap between the two lots and untaxed, sort of like an alley would be handled.

I'm guessing WW II based on the probable age of most of the houses.?ÿ I'm working across the street in a different sub but was searching for anything I could find close to my block.


 
Posted : December 23, 2020 8:35 pm
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@field-dog

Sorry, not in Paola.


 
Posted : December 23, 2020 8:36 pm
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@paden-cash

Closer to Okiehoma.?ÿ With a far northeastern Indian term for river's mouth for a name.


 
Posted : December 23, 2020 8:40 pm
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Strange that the GIS parcel search pull-down for subdivisions doesn't seem to have Victory Homes, but if you eventually find it the descriptions do give that name.

Or am I in the wrong place entirely??ÿ You must need to be logged in to see the easements? I don't see anything betwee lots 6 & 7.?ÿ And I only find 10 lots, not 12.?ÿ The end ones do appear to be wider than the rest.

?ÿ


 
Posted : December 23, 2020 9:47 pm
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@bill93

You are in the right place, I'm sure.?ÿ There are 10 lots, not 12.?ÿ It was cut out of what was labeled Hollingsworth Reservation.?ÿ The Reservation must have been retained by the family when the remainder of their land was platted as Hollingsworth Addition.?ÿ I forget the year of the addition but I'm thinking late 1800's or early 1900's.

Apparently the GIS department didn't know what to do with that five-feet either, so they left it off of the online resource.?ÿ They do not show easements in the online maps.

Of what use would a five-foot easement be??ÿ


 
Posted : December 23, 2020 10:13 pm

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@holy-cow

See a lot of 5' drainage easements here, for storm drain pipe or french drain.


 
Posted : December 24, 2020 6:11 am
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I surveyed in one in Bethlehem, PA which was built to house the increase in workers for WW 1. From what I found many of the homes were built before the subdivision map was filed and are shown on the map. This one was a mix of single family, double and town brick homes. I found that lot lines did not agree with the double home and town home splits in my block. The lot I surveyed was a single family with a detached garage, 4 unit town home to the West and double home to the East. Each block was a separate filed map sheet. There were 2 called for granite monuments (no iron), I found 1 along my frontage, 1 in the block to the West and 2 in the block to the East. All within hundredths on the geometry and held same and most lot lines fell within common walls. My references were PQ deed, deed from town home owner to West for the western 1/2 of an unopened alley, a "Disclaimer of Rights" to the East 1/2 of the alley by the City and the Filed Map. Victory Gardens was a common name used in hundreds of such subdivisions, the title on the map is "THE UNITED STATES HOUSING CORPORATION OF PENNSYLVANIA FOR PROJECT NO. 24, PLAN SHOWING LOT DIVISION OF BLOCK 2900" Dated 1922. So try looking under a similar name.

Twenty years ago I worked on a sewer project in Roosevelt, NJ built prior to WW 2. It was built as "Jersey Homesteads". Beside hundreds of single story cinder block homes the town had an elementary school, a post office, liquor store and a synagogue. Roosevelt was a few miles south of Princeton and between the two was a cinder block "chicken coop" a quarter of a mile long?

Paul in PA


 
Posted : December 24, 2020 8:39 am
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@paul-in-pa

There is another rural subdivision in the same county labeled Victory Farms which I think was a forty acre tract split into numerous four to five acre tracts around WW II.?ÿ I only know this because I had one job involving a couple of those tracts many years ago.


 
Posted : December 24, 2020 9:23 am
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Posted by: @holy-cow

Yes, that subdivision is in the search list of the GIS but Victory Homes Inc is not.

You referred to a tax map that differs from the GIS.?ÿ Is that still paper? I thought GIS was used to replace paper and make it easier to both update and access.?ÿ Or is the tax map what you get after logging in?


 
Posted : December 24, 2020 9:38 am
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@bill93

I was referring to the online drawing you found but the office version has the lot dimensions spelled out.?ÿ The office version shows Lot 6 and Lot 7 has being 65 feet wide but totally ignores the 5-foot easement that is shown on the surveys.?ÿ There must be a plat, which may have been a simple survey, by some local surveyor that was in the files of the guy whose work I'm attempting to follow.?ÿ Unfortunately, this fellow has been dead for over ten years and very few of his surveys ever made it to the courthouses.?ÿ I have no idea what happened to his office files.?ÿ Probably added to a bonfire or ended up in a landfill.


 
Posted : December 24, 2020 10:48 am

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Posted by: @holy-cow

called Victory Homes (Don't ask me why because I don't know.)

You ought to see what they call ƒ??Forest Hillsƒ? in Florida. ?????ÿ


 
Posted : December 24, 2020 11:23 am