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Unusual Monument

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We found the monument in the photograph on a recent survey. It is a concrete bound with a steel rod in the center. What made it unusual is the number 61 on the side.

Since the street address of the property is number 52 it didnƒ??t make sense at first. After processing data from that day it turned out the number 61 represents the subdivision lot number from 1950, so this monument is likely that old.

I have never seen a survey monument marked with a lot number.

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Posted : 25/02/2023 1:40 pm
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I have set naked bars while cemetery lot plotting that then had numbered metallic caps added by the cemetery caretaker staff.  The numbers matched the lot numbers. Dey shor dun lookt purty!

 
Posted : 25/02/2023 3:18 pm
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Never saw anything like this.

The numbers are molded in, so whoever manufactured the monument had a mold with changeable numbers. They went to an unusual amount of trouble. The back story must be quite interesting.

Since they had a mold, they wouldn't have stopped with one monument. Chances are lots more of these were originally set, though some could have been knocked out.

 
Posted : 26/02/2023 7:55 am
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There's a 1913 subdivision in my city that has the lot numbers stamped into the sidewalk mid-lot.  They also stamped a fancy arrow at the back of walk at each lot line.

 
Posted : 26/02/2023 8:17 am
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Cool monument. That's high quality and it means it should last and be used for what it is. 

All our subdivisions since the early 2000's are monumented with caps stamped with each lot # at the lot corners. 

 
Posted : 26/02/2023 9:49 am
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And you KNOW that someone will cut an "X" 0.04 from the rod in the center. (grin)

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Posted : 26/02/2023 12:09 pm
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@mightymoe that's interesting, what state do you work in?  I'm from NJ and we have been required to to monument subdivisions with concrete control monuments since the 1990's.  We are required to monument all PCs, PTs and angle points along one side of every road and monument the parent tract outbounds.

We are also required to set iron pins or concrete monuments at each lot corner but the "ultimate user", a. k. a. purchaser, has the legal right to waive the setting of corners and at least half of them, if not more, waive the setting of corners to save a few dollars.

our caps and concrete monument disks only have to include our company name and my PLS number with no lot numbers included.

 
Posted : 26/02/2023 12:46 pm
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@mightymoe that's interesting, what state do you work in?  I'm from NJ and we have been required to to monument subdivisions with concrete control monuments since the 1990's.  We are required to monument all PCs, PTs and angle points along one side of every road and monument the parent tract outbounds.

We are also required to set iron pins or concrete monuments at each lot corner but the "ultimate user", a. k. a. purchaser, has the legal right to waive the setting of corners and at least half of them, if not more, waive the setting of corners to save a few dollars.

our caps and concrete monument disks only have to include our company name and my PLS number with no lot numbers included.

Wyoming, but it's a county regulation.

We've developed a system to stamp and track the caps, a subdivision map is put by the vice for stamping with point numbers for each corner, then it's stamped with the lot numbers and the point number is written on the side of the cap. Then it's put into a tool box that's has about a dozen sections. That box it carried into the field and the rebar is shoved into the ground using the Dewalt hammer. The cap is tapped on and pointed to the correct lot numbers. 

 

 
Posted : 26/02/2023 1:49 pm
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And you KNOW that someone will cut an "X" 0.04 from the rod in the center. (grin)

Andy

I like to use a sharp hardened steel punch personally....

 

 

 
Posted : 26/02/2023 2:08 pm
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I have never seen one quite like that, but marking lot numbers on caps is very common. It's even required in some areas. 

 
Posted : 27/02/2023 11:54 am
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