Great requirement to get you to the POB.?ÿ After that the controlling calls are the same as they have always been and are based on the law and not on technology.?ÿ
Sure beats pincushion PK's at road intersections.
The part that I absolutely detest is that the use of GPS is dictated.?ÿ No choice.?ÿ The actual survey might be done quite adequately with a 100-foot steel tape.?ÿ But, Big Brother has decided that to be a surveyor you must own a Lamborghini instead of a Cadillac.
I wasn't aware that North Carolina required the use of GPS.?ÿ Only that the tie be to a NGS or a NCGS horizontal control monument with published geodetic coordinates.?ÿ
I haven't lived in NC for 10 years and the tie requirement may have changed since then.
That is the impact if the POB must also be locked down, which is what I thought Murphy said.
Thanks for the clarification.
I did a few of those ties with a 5 second total station and took that requirement into consideration when I gave my proposal.
Years ago Oregon required plats have a tie to 'a' record geodetic control point if there was one within a certain distance.?ÿ This was to help the county with adding to their GISs in their infancy.?ÿ I always thought it was pretty much useless since the required only 1 point.?ÿ The requirement has since been removed.
I agree that it is pretty much useless for retracement.?ÿ?ÿ
The monuments control but the faster you find them and if in agreement with the record the more money you make.
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I'm currently involved in a Court Case where Point of Beginning is the major bone of contention. The opposing Land Surveyor argument is that the Point of Beginning is where his found pins determine it to be. My argument is the Original Monuments GLO 1/4 corner a found stone tie determines where it is. In this case where the Point of Beginning is, is a very important point in this case.
Point of commencement POC is the starting point off of the property and is usually tied to an intersection of right-of-ways. Point of beginning POB is the starting point located at a property corner. You would always end at the POB because it is already previously described as such. Also, the Point of Beginning and the True Point of Beginning is old verbiage and should not be used.
The Point of Ending; I've never heard of it. The only thing I can think of is if they were describing the center of an easement line or some other line where it is not closed.
Where is this tract?
Beginning at a point 1201.45 feet north and 50 feet east of the southwest corner of Section 4, Thence north 300 feet along the section line; thence......................
No problem if you read "along" as "parallel to", but certainly not stated clearly.
Along has been sometimes interpreted as looser than "with", but 50 ft is getting rather loose.
https://surveyorconnect.com/community/postid/223544/
Actually, another confusion may be introduced by that interpretation if there is a 50-ft half-ROW easement involved, as it would appear to reserve the easement where the usual supposition is that the intent is to sell that land as it is part of the parcel.
Haha.?ÿ Until the research and field work is completed I only answer multiple choice questions.?ÿ?ÿ
Right now I choose Bill93.
...oh baby....Another Conference topic at the Western States Conf.?ÿ
POB/TPOB interchangeable??ÿ DO you Close on the POB or the TPOB??ÿ?ÿ
POC vs POB ...... interesting.....
take away:?ÿ develop your style, seek guidance from the people mentoring you, and don't do what the people that really screwed it up in the court cases did do, the wrong way. ????
Referencing the W1/4 of Sec xx;
thence SE, 100' to the Point of Beginning;
A wise man learns from his mistakes; a wiser man learns from the mistakes of others...
~Dougie
Hey!!! My post is time stamped before yours and it showed up after!!!!?ÿ
Is that cause you live closer to Wendell or something?
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"Commence" with "Point of Beginning"
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"Beginning at" with "True Point of Beginning"
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They mean the same thing. No ambiguity, no problem. You can use all the extra words or whatever form you like, as long as there is no ambiguity.?ÿ